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Lucia Pace from Avigliano

Postby pacemeow » 28 Dec 2006, 04:34

Hello, I'm wondering if anybody could help me solve an old family legend.

I'm looking for any relatives of my great aunt named Lucia Pace. She was born in Avigliano in the province of Basilicata at around 1880 and left from Naples by herself for New York when she was only 20 years old. A few years later, she sent a letter saying that she was in San Francisco, and nobody heard from her since. Nobody knows where she went, but whenever I go back my father's hometown of Forenza, everybody always tells stories and shows pictures of brave Zia Lucia who ventured through the mountains on muleback and off to the New World all on her own.

If you know of her or have any information about her, about where she lived, when she died, or if she had any children, it would be incredibly helpful.

Thank You very much,

Claudia

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Re: Lucia Pace from Avigliano

Postby nuccia » 28 Dec 2006, 05:17

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Re: Lucia Pace from Avigliano

Postby Esperanza » 28 Dec 2006, 05:46

There's a Maria Lucia from Forenza... but born in 1888.. married, and would have travelled with daughter Cristina...

Unfortunately they did not sail on this voyage since there's a line running through the names... there could be another listing...

First Name: Ma. Lucia
Last Name: Pace
Ethnicity: Italy
Last Place of Residence: Forenza, Itlay
Date of Arrival: Dec 26, 1911
Age at Arrival: 23 Gender: F Marital Status: M
Ship of Travel: Duca di Genova
Port of Departure: Naples
Manifest Line Number: 0010

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Page 2

Can you mention any siblings...? You've seen photo's of her? Do you know what her occupation was? Teacher??

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Re: Lucia Pace from Avigliano

Postby wldspirit » 28 Dec 2006, 10:24

It will be very difficult to find her and know beyond a shadow of a doubt that it is her without more info.....something concrete to identify her.

This may or may not help....but the California death index usually list the mothers surname......Do you know Lucia's mothers surname??

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Re: Lucia Pace from Avigliano

Postby pacemeow » 28 Dec 2006, 13:53

Firstly, I'd like to thank everyody very much for even this beginning of a help.

She had 2 brothers named Donato and Vito Pace, but they both stayed in Italy. I should know this since Vito is my grest grandfather.

I've spoken to my father and he's quite sure that the girl listed as from Forenza must be her, but the marriage and child is news to us. She was indeed born in Avigliano but the whole family moved from there to Forenza before she left. Essentially, any Pace from Forenza is a relative of mine, since no Pace at that time was originally from Forenza, but moved from Avigliano with that part of the family.

I'll have to ask my grandparents about her mother's last name, but that shouldn't e to difficult to find.

One promising thing is that if she had a child, then she might have married in Italy and so kept the name of Pace, instead of doing it in the US and taking her husband's name. Granted, she may have done any number of things to change it afterwards.

But if she did have a child, perhaps I can find a record of her birth.

Thanks again,

Claudia.

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Re: Lucia Pace from Avigliano

Postby nuccia » 28 Dec 2006, 15:36

I noticed the one traveling with the child when I posted the first one lists her father Giuseppe Nicola as the next of kin and going to Ohio, if I'm reading it correctly...sound familiar to you?
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Re: Lucia Pace from Avigliano

Postby Esperanza » 29 Dec 2006, 01:40

pacemeow wrote:I've spoken to my father and he's quite sure that the girl listed as from Forenza must be her, but the marriage and child is news to us. She was indeed born in Avigliano but the whole family moved from there to Forenza before she left. Essentially, any Pace from Forenza is a relative of mine, since no Pace at that time was originally from Forenza, but moved from Avigliano with that part of the family.

One promising thing is that if she had a child, then she might have married in Italy and so kept the name of Pace, instead of doing it in the US and taking her husband's name. Granted, she may have done any number of things to change it afterwards.

But if she did have a child, perhaps I can find a record of her birth.

Thanks again,

Claudia.


Hi Claudia, really nice to hear a positive reply! But we do need to confirm Maria Lucia's father as Giuseppe Nicola.... :!:

If you are certain that this is the person you are looking for... then there should be further records we can dig up since we now have a surname for Cristina...

This is how Cristina's name is transcribed...

0010. Pace, Ma. Lucia F 23 M Italy Forenza, Itlay
0011. Piezzo, Oristma F 2 S Italy Forenza, Italy

According to this ships record, the husband is Vittorio Pierro and not Piezzo as transcribed...

Hope this helps some.

Further edit... I thought the husband's name was Antonio... but it does look like Vittorio???? Please see census records posted by vj below....

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Re: Lucia Pace from Avigliano

Postby vj » 29 Dec 2006, 02:00

Question?
On page 2 of esperanza's manifest find (above), line 11:
Was daughter born in US, or address Box 115?
Thanks! vj

Interesting census?
possible 1920 census
Name: Lucia Pierro
Home in 1920:
717 Summer, rents
Steubenville Ward 3, Jefferson, Ohio
Age: 33 years Estimated birth year: abt 1887
Birthplace: Italy
Relation to Head of House: Wife
Spouse's name: Victor
Father's Birth Place: Italy Mother's Birth Place: Italy
Marital Status: Married
Year of Immigration: 1912
Able to read: Yes Able to Write: Yes

Household Members
head Victor Pierro 37 (abt 1883)
- immig 1900
- laborer, steel mill
wife Lucia Pierro 33 (abt 1887)
- immig 1912
- boarding mistress, boarding house
daughter Christina Pierro 13 (abt 1907??)
- immig 1912
son Ralph Pierro 7 (abt 1913)
- b in Ohio
daughter Antoniette Pierro 4 10/12 (abt 1915)
- b in Ohio
son Joseph Pierro 2 (abt 1918)
- b in Ohio
brother Anthony Pierro 27, single
- immig 1914 Na 1918
- gas worker?, steel mill

boarder Anthony MacAngi 34
boarder Michael Lamorie 40
boarder Anthony Posangi 42

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Re: Lucia Pace from Avigliano

Postby Esperanza » 29 Dec 2006, 02:12

It does look like Born US eh?

So... if this is the case... maybe more manifests to locate???

I think it does say Box 115... there are other addys there with the same Box #

Since this is a "Did not Sail " manifest... some info is missing... like whether she was was in the USA at a previous time... and a better destination address...

Thank you for pointing that out vj !!

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Re: Lucia Pace from Avigliano

Postby Esperanza » 29 Dec 2006, 02:26

You found this in just minutes!!!

vj... you are simply amazing!!!!

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Re: Lucia Pace from Avigliano

Postby vj » 29 Dec 2006, 02:53

possible 1918 WWI Draft Registration Card
Vito Piero, 35
717 N 7th?
Steubenville, Jefferson, Ohio
b Jul 1883
no town listed, Italy
non-declarant
labor, iron works
wife Lucia, same address
made his mark

brother Antonio Pierro's
1917 WWI Draft Registration Card
22 yrs old, b abt 1895
same address as Vito (above)
filed 1st papers
there is a town in Italy - hard to read

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Speranza & all,
Isn't it wonderful when the names are transcribed
correctly!
Guessing there may be more than one missing manifest.
Vittorio 1st manifest abt 1900?
2nd manifest after Cristina was born (bet 1906-9)?
and the missing manifests for Lucia & Cristina?
It would be terrific if this were the correct family.
Valarie

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Re: Lucia Pace from Avigliano

Postby Esperanza » 29 Dec 2006, 03:35

Possible manifest... birth year is close... (1884)

First Name: Vito
Last Name: Pierro
Ethnicity: Italy, Italy South
Last Place of Residence: Forensa, Potensa
Date of Arrival: Mar 14, 1910
Age at Arrival: 26y Gender: M Marital Status: M
Ship of Travel: Duca di Genova
Port of Departure: Napoli
Manifest Line Number: 0006

Vito Pierro 1910 manifest page 1

1910 manifest page 2

Destination Steubenville, Ohio, joining brother Michele

It certainly would be nice if this was the correct family!!

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Re: Lucia Pace from Avigliano

Postby vj » 29 Dec 2006, 03:50

more clues?
- married 1907?
- hard to pin down Cristina's birth year
vj

possible 1930 census
page 2
Name: Lucy Perch (Perio)
Home in 1930:
717 N? (near Summer)
Steubenville, Jefferson, Ohio
Age: 43 Estimated birth year: abt 1887
Relation to Head of House: Wife
Spouse's name: Veto

Household Members:
head Veto Perch (Perio) 47 (abt 1883)
- married age 24 (abt 1907)
- immig 1913 Al
- laborer, steel mill
wife Lucy 43 (abt 1887)
- married age 20 (abt 1907)
- immig 1913 Al
daughter Christine 20? (abt 1910?)
- immig 1913 Al
(rest of children b in Ohio)
son Ralph 18 (abt 1912)
daughter Antionette 14 (abt 1916)
son Joseph 12 (abt 1918)
daughter Carmel M 10 (abt 1920)
daughter Margret 7 (abt 1923)
daughter Elizabeth 3 7/12 (abt 1926)

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Re: Lucia Pace from Avigliano

Postby Esperanza » 29 Dec 2006, 04:00

Oh well.. we can always track a living Pierro and tell him/her that we've done their genealogy... if this isn't the correct family...

Here's Cristina's ship record...

Cristina d'Faught....

1912 manifest page 2

Transcriptions at their best.... eh?? But it's them....

0017. Page, Maria F 23y M Italy, South Forensa, Italy
0018. D'Faught, Cristina F 2y S Italy, South Forensa, Italy

First Name: Cristina
Last Name: D'Faught (daughter...)
Ethnicity: Italy, South
Last Place of Residence: Forensa, Italy
Date of Arrival: Mar 07, 1912
Age at Arrival: 2y Gender: F Marital Status: S
Ship of Travel: Duca D'Aosta
Port of Departure: Genoa
Manifest Line Number: 0018

Off to join father Vito.... in Ohio

First Name: Maria
Last Name: Page (Pace)
Ethnicity: Italy, South
Last Place of Residence: Forensa, Italy
Date of Arrival: Mar 07, 1912
Age at Arrival: 23y Gender: F Marital Status: M
Ship of Travel: Duca D'Aosta
Port of Departure: Genoa
Manifest Line Number: 0017

Father in Italy is Giuseppe....

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Re: Lucia Pace from Avigliano

Postby vj » 29 Dec 2006, 04:35

Speranza,
That was a great find!
Checked ancestry, the image for pg 1 isn't much better.
Can you make out town of birth on pg 2?
vj


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