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Tesio, Varino and Parato families

Postby Vivian » 31 Dec 2006, 19:35

First of all I want to again thank Nuccia, Trish, V.J., Ann, and SuanJ for the past help that they have given me with this research. These ladies have helped me obtain a great deal of the information that I currently have on my ancestors. Below are just a few of the missing pieces that I'm still trying to obtain: (1) the town(s) in Italy where my ancestors came from - a very good possibility is Northern Italy, near Torino, Piemonte region, (2) the dates and places of death for Domenico and Caterina Tesio -likely Manhattan, New York, (3) a date of birth for Caterina Tesio, and (4)possible other immigration manifests for Domenico -who may have originally arrived in late 1883 or early 1884, (5) names of 2 unknown children of Domenico and Caterina Tesio (that may have died at birth or very young). Any additional help or information is welcomed and greatly appreciated. Thank you, Vivian

Here is a brief list of information that I already have:
Domenico Tesio
Date of Birth 10/8/1866
Date of Arrival to United States 1/1/1884 (per naturalization documents)
Date of Naturalization 11/10/1905 witnessed by his brother Peter Tesio
Estimated date of death: 1953 or 1954
Ship manifest of arrival to New York w/wife Caterina on 10/27/1890, SS La Bretagne
1900 Census – 4 children, 2 living
1910 Census
1920 Census w/brother-in law Domenico Varino living with them

Caterina (Katie) Varino-Tesio
Married Domenico Tesio in 1890
Estimated Year of Birth: 1870
Estimated date of death: 1945
Katie year of immigration 10/27/1890 (have ship manifest)

4 Children (knowledge of 2 sons) –
Angelo Luigi Tesio (Louis)
Born: 8/9/1893 New York, New York (Manhattan)
Died: 5/3/1943 New York, New York (Manhattan)
Married: Mary Egan 4/29/1923
One child: Theresa Shirley Tesio Born 9/4/1926
WWI draft registration card

Caesar D Tesio
Born: 5/24/1895 New York, New York (Manhattan)
Died: 8/17/1974 Union City, New Jersey
Married one time, late in life to Catherine Tesio – no children
WWI draft registration card

Dominick Varino -Brother of Caterina
Born 6/25/1868 – Birthplace: Italy, Lived in New York 32 years at his time of death
Died 11/5/1923 New York, New York (Manhattan)
Year of immigration 1891?, ship manifest 10/8/1894 SS La Burgogne
Death certificate lists his parents names Angelo Varino (Italy) and Madelena Cornavesi (Italy) Note: ? spelling of both names

Pietro (Peter) Andrew Tesio - Brother of Domenico
Born 12/4/1868 Birthplace: Italy, Lived in New York 39 years at his time of death (incorrect)
Died: 3/20/1923 New York, New York (Death certificate lists his parents names Gaspazo Tesio (Italy) and Johanna Parato (Italy) Note: ? spelling of both names
Date of Arrival to United States not listed on naturalization document
Date of Naturalization 10/22/1891
Ship manifest of arrival to New York w/wife Lucia on 7/2/1894, SS La Normandie
Married Lucia in 1894 (married 6 years per 1900 census)
1900 Census – 3 sons
1910 Census – 2 sons and 2 daughters (should be 3 sons and 1 daughter)
1920 Census – 2 sons and 1 daughter (1 son passed away at the age of 19)
Middle son of Peter and Lucia, John Tesio, born 9/21/1896 - lists his father’s birthplace in Italy on his World War I Draft Registration Card B (dated 6/5/1918) as Tuson or Guson (difficult to read)

Another possible relative of Domenico and Peter Tesio –
Pascale Tesio - 1930 Census (living at the last known address for Domenic and Caterina Tesio in 1920)
Born in 1898 in Italy
Married to Rose Tesio in 1919, born in Italy
Both parents born in Italy
Immigrated to New York in 1920 – Alien status
3 children – 2 sons and 1 daughter

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Re: Tesio, Varino and Parato families

Postby vj » 31 Dec 2006, 19:42

Hi!
Vivian from gaetano online, right?

Welcome to Italiangenealogy.com!

We'll all see what we can do to help.
Valarie

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Re: Tesio, Varino and Parato families

Postby vj » 31 Dec 2006, 23:14

"(4) possible other immigration manifests for Domenico -
who may have originally arrived in late 1883 or early 1884"


possible 1884 manifest
11 Jan 1884, Rhynland, Antwerp Belgium to NY
lines 63-66 may be related
all from Italy, all going to NY
- Giovanni Tesio, 45 (abt 1838)
- Dominico Tesio, 17 (abt 1866)
- Pietro Tesio, 15 (abt 1868)
- Marziane Tesio, 11 (abt 1872)

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Re: Tesio, Varino and Parato families

Postby Vivian » 02 Jan 2007, 17:05

V.J. - you've truly have lived up to your master title. I can not tell you how many manifests I've gone through looking for the 1883 or 1884 arrival of Domenico and Pietro. The ages look right so I'll continue to confirm. I know that I could learn a lot from you and your research techniques. You're wonderful for helping others. :D Thank you again. Vivian

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Re: Tesio, Varino and Parato families

Postby vj » 02 Jan 2007, 17:20

Vivian,
You're very welcome! :D
We all really enjoy a challenge.

The addition of the NY Manifests to ancestry.com really
simplified this search. Used first three intials of 1st name,
no last name, approx birth year, approx manifest year.
Both Dom & Pietro came up with the same last name: Feris
Looking at the 'Feris' manifest it looked possible for Tesio.

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Re: Tesio, Varino and Parato families

Postby nuccia » 02 Jan 2007, 18:52

Hi Vivian,

Nice to see you here. Hope you had a great holiday! Thank you for the kind words and for filling us in on how your research has been going.

Glad vj was able to find the info you were looking for so quickly..you are correct when you say you could learn a lot from her, as well as several others here...thats what this is all about. Learning from each other. :D

Valerie, hope you had a great holiday as well! :D

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Re: Tesio, Varino and Parato families

Postby Vivian » 02 Jan 2007, 19:19

Nuccia and Valerie - All of the information that you have provided me, both on this site and on Gaetano online continues to help my progress. I look forward to hearing from others. Thank you both. Vivian

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Re: Tesio, Varino and Parato families

Postby jcsm400 » 02 Jan 2007, 20:49

Hi Vivian,

Three things you may want to try......

1. Church records: many times sacramental records will have additional information that was required by the church.

2. SS application: Since Domenico Tesio died abt 1954, he may have applied for social security.

3. Since you have parents names from brother Peter's, DC & Domenico's & Pietro's birth dates (use as approx), you can try contacting the province archive of the Northern provinces & request their military records (foglio matricolare) and/or military draft card (listro di leva).

Gaetano Online has links to all the archives with their contact information.

Hope this helps.

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Re: Tesio, Varino and Parato families

Postby Vivian » 02 Jan 2007, 22:04

JCSM - Thank you so much for the reply. Are you referring to church records in the US or in Italy? I'll do a little research on how to pursue that, thank you for the suggestion. I have been unable to find a SS #, date of death or place of death for Domenico (although I believe that he died in New York). Since Domenico was only 17 and Pietro was only 15 (young) would they have Italian military records? I tried to obtain military information from my granfather's records (Domenico's son) and I was denied information because of privacy issues. I'm not his next of kin (they are all deceased) and being the closest living relative doesn't help. Again I will do a little more research. All of your suggestions are appreciated and I thank you for your willingness to help. Vivian

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Re: Tesio, Varino and Parato families

Postby jcsm400 » 02 Jan 2007, 22:11

Hi Vivian,

I was referring to US church records, since Italian town is unknown.

They may have Italian military records even though they immigrated prior to military draft age.....Also check for birth records at the archives.

Keep us posted.

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Re: Tesio, Varino and Parato families

Postby Vivian » 07 Jan 2007, 05:36

Joyce, thank you for the reply. I am currently attempting to locate the New York church or churches that the family may have attended. It would appear that each church keeps their own records (marriage, baptismal, deaths etc) Without knowing the Italian town that the family came from is it possible to order military records? Maybe a record on Pascale Tesio (born in 1898 and immigrated in 1920) could confirm the family relationship and provide additional information on the town they came from. Where would I write? Also I have several dates of birth, should I try the military records first and if they reply, then write the birth archives? Do you have the addresses of where I would write or e-mail? Your help is greatly appreciated. Vivian

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Re: Tesio, Varino and Parato families

Postby jcsm400 » 07 Jan 2007, 06:09

Hi Vivian,

Copied from 1/2/07 posted:

"3. Since you have parents names from brother Peter's, DC & Domenico's & Pietro's birth dates (use as approx), you can try contacting the province archive of the Northern provinces & request their military records (foglio matricolare) and/or military draft card (listro di leva).

Gaetano Online has links to all the archives with their contact information."

http://home.att.net/~gaetano2/personal.html

Happy to help out.

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Re: Tesio, Varino and Parato families

Postby Vivian » 07 Jan 2007, 18:27

Joyce - I am sorry about this but I'm unable to find the information that you indicate is available on Gaetano Online. Can you expand on your reply, and indicate where I can go to find it? Thanks for the additional help. Vivian

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Re: Tesio, Varino and Parato families

Postby jcsm400 » 07 Jan 2007, 18:58

About a 3rd down on left hand side "Italian State Archives Addresses"

http://home.att.net/~gaetano2/personal.html

Click on it & beings you to>

http://www.iagi.info/genealogia/archivi_di_stato.htm

Click on the province(s) you want to contact.

Hope this helps.

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Re: Tesio, Varino and Parato families

Postby Vivian » 07 Jan 2007, 22:04

Jpyce, thank you! With your instructions I've now found it. You're the best. Vivian


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