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Italian Surnames & Family Heritage

Postby EireItaliaDonna » 04 Jan 2007, 01:27

I am in the midst of trying to tie together some of my family's genealogy.

Some of the surnames that run through the family are: Traniello/Troniello, Scipione, Lagorio, and Deferrari. There are probably more but I'm still trying to work my way back through the family. If you should have any information that might help, please let me know.

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Re: Italian Surnames & Family Heritage

Postby nuccia » 04 Jan 2007, 03:07

Hi There! The best way that we can help you is if are can be a bit more specific in what your research goals are. Can you provide any first name, birthdates, spouses (maiden names for women), parents, children or siblings? Where did they come from and where did they settle?

Any little clues you can provide will help us help you!
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Re: Italian Surnames & Family Heritage

Postby EireItaliaDonna » 04 Jan 2007, 15:43

Let's see... my goal is to pull together a family tree of both sides of my family and possibly a family history of information gathered to share with others.

Traniello/Troniello - Coat of arms states Troniello but all I've known the family name to be is Traniello. My grandfather, Angelo, came to the US when he was 1 years old from Gaeta, Italy in the early 1900s. There are numerous people in the family named Antonio, Maria, Rosa, etc. but it is very hard to track down who is his brother/sister, cousin, nephew/niece, etc. Settled for the most part in Massachusetts.

Scipione/Lagorio - I understand the part of the family came from Gaeta and some came from Genoa but I am unsure where and when it occurred. My grandmother who married Angelo was a Scipione and her mother was Ida Lagorio (born in US or Italy unknown). Settled for the most part in Massachusetts.

Deferrari were extended family and somehow connected to the Scipione/Lagorio part of the family through great grandparents generation, I believe.

I would also be interested in the future to obtain information regarding the Irish side of my family with the names of Skahan and Deignan that settled in the United States. For the most part, I know only enough information for 3 generations on the Skahan side of the family (but know very little about the Deignan family from Ireland. My grandmother was Sarah M. Skahan who married Joseph Francis Deignan.

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Re: Italian Surnames & Family Heritage

Postby wldspirit » 04 Jan 2007, 15:57

Lots of names here!!! I'll take Ida......

1910 United States Federal Census

Name: Ida Lagorio
[Ida Legerio]
Age in 1910: 15
Estimated birth year: abt 1895
Birthplace: Massachusetts
Relation to Head of House: Daughter
Father's name: Guiseppe
Father's Birth Place: Italy
Mother's name: Teresa
Mother's Birth Place: Massachusetts
Home in 1910: Boston Ward 6, Suffolk, Massachusetts
Marital Status: Single
Race: White
Gender: Female
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Household Members: Name Age
Guiseppe Lagorio 60
Teresa Lagorio 52
Dora Lagorio 20
Orelia Lagorio 17
Ida Lagorio 15
Andrea Lagorio 13
Giuseppe Lagorio 10

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note: not the right Ida

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Re: Italian Surnames & Family Heritage

Postby EireItaliaDonna » 04 Jan 2007, 17:19

Wow, this is great! Some of these names are sounding familiar from some of my nana's stories when I was a child. However, my grandmother, Frances, was born in 1908 to Ida Lagorio Scipione and Charles Scipione. I really don't think it possible that my grandmother was born when her own mother was 13 years old... perhaps this is a relative. I look forward to learning more. Mille Grazie!

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Re: Italian Surnames & Family Heritage

Postby wldspirit » 04 Jan 2007, 17:39

Let's try this again....... :P

1910 United States Federal Census

Name: Ida R Scipione
Age in 1910: 27
Estimated birth year: abt 1883
Birthplace: Massachusetts
Relation to Head of House: Wife
Father's Birth Place: Indian Territory, Oklahoma
Mother's Birth Place: Indian Territory, Oklahoma
Spouse's name: Charles
Home in 1910: Newton Ward 2, Middlesex, Massachusetts
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Gender: Female

Household Members: Name Age
Charles Scipione 34
Ida R Scipione 27
Charles J Scipione 8
Arthur S Scipione 6
John A Scipione 3
Frances R Scipione 1 10/12

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note family living next door above Scipione family

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Re: Italian Surnames & Family Heritage

Postby nuccia » 04 Jan 2007, 18:59

Found this info for an Angelo arriving when he was 1 year old with his mother and sister....

First Name: Angelo
Last Name: Traniello
Ethnicity: Italian
Last Place of Residence: Algeri
Date of Arrival: Apr 06, 1902
Age at Arrival: 1y Gender: M Marital Status: S
Ship of Travel: Neustria
Port of Departure: Naples
Manifest Line Number: 0020

First Name: Annunziata
Last Name: Viola
Ethnicity: Italian
Last Place of Residence: Algeri
Date of Arrival: Apr 06, 1902
Age at Arrival: 25y Gender: F Marital Status: M
Ship of Travel: Neustria
Port of Departure: Naples
Manifest Line Number: 0018

First Name: Anna
Last Name: Traniello
Ethnicity: Italian
Last Place of Residence: Algeri
Date of Arrival: Apr 06, 1902
Age at Arrival: 3y Gender: F Marital Status: S
Ship of Travel: Neustria
Port of Departure: Naples
Manifest Line Number: 0019


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Does this sound like a possible match?
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Re: Italian Surnames & Family Heritage

Postby nuccia » 04 Jan 2007, 19:08

I think this may be a more likely match though..

Boston Passenger Lists, 1820-1943
about Angelo Traniello
Name: Angelo Traniello
Arrival Date: 31 May 1906
Age: 10 Years
Age Months: 10
Estimated birth year: abt 1896
Gender: Male
Ethnic Background: Italian (South) (Italian)
Port of Departure: Naples, Italy
Ship Name: Romanic
Port of Arrival: Boston, Massachusetts
Friend's Name: Antonio Traniello
Last Residence: Italy
Microfilm Roll Number: 94

Arriving with his mother, brother and sister as well..Mother is Maria Rosa Semione 40 years old, (going to see husband Antonio), brother Pasquale, 10 years old, and sister Maria Carmine, 6. The manifest text says hes 10 years old and 1o months but the actual manifest says hes 1 year and 10 months old.

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Source Information:
Ancestry.com. Boston Passenger Lists, 1820-1943 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: The Generations Network, Inc., 2006. Original data:

# Boston, Massachusetts. Passenger Lists of Vessels Arriving at Boston, Massachusetts, 1891-1943. Micropublication T843. RG085. Rolls # 1-454. National Archives, Washington, D.C.

# Boston, Massachusetts. Passenger Lists of Vessels Arriving at Boston, Massachusetts, 1820-1891. Micropublication M277. RG036. Rolls #1-115. National Archives, Washington, D.C.
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Re: Italian Surnames & Family Heritage

Postby wldspirit » 04 Jan 2007, 19:16

Charles immigration is listed as 1891, naturalized 1911.
The parents birthplace for Ida is clearly Italy, as is listed on 1910
census....someone goofed at ancestry with the Indian territory birthplace!!!

1920 United States Federal Census

Name: Ida R Scipione
Home in 1920: Newton Ward 2, Middlesex, Massachusetts
Age: 37 years
Estimated birth year: abt 1883
Birthplace: Massachusetts
Relation to Head of House: Wife
Spouse's name: Charles
Father's Birth Place: Italy
Mother's Birth Place: Italy
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Sex: Female
Able to read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes
Household Members: Name Age
Charles Scipione 44
Ida R Scipione 37
Charles Scipione 17
Arthur S Scipione 16
John A Scipione 13
Frances Scipione 11
Reta Scipione 5

1930 United States Federal Census

Name: Ida R Scipione
Home in 1930: Newton, Middlesex, Massachusetts
Age: 47
Estimated birth year: abt 1883
Relation to Head of House: Wife
Spouse's name: Charles
Age at first marriage: Charles 26, Ida 19.
Household Members: Name Age
Charles Scipione 54
Ida R Scipione 47
Charles Scipione 28
Arthur S Scipione 26
John A Scipione 23
Frances R Scipione 21
Rita E Scipione 15

Charles again list immigration of 1891, is naturalized and Ida parents birthplace of Italy.

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Re: Italian Surnames & Family Heritage

Postby nuccia » 04 Jan 2007, 19:16

Family in the 1910 Census:

1910 United States Federal Census
about Mary Franiello
Name: Mary Franiello
[Mary Traniello]
Age in 1910: 44
Estimated birth year: abt 1866
Birthplace: Italy
Relation to Head of House: Wife
Father's Birth Place: Italy
Mother's Birth Place: Italy
Spouse's name: Antonio
Home in 1910: Boston Ward 22, Suffolk, Massachusetts
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Gender: Female
Year of Immigration: 1906
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Household Members:
Name Age
Antonio Franiello 41
Mary Franiello 44
Gustaph Franiello 15
Pargusello Franiello 15
Carmine Franiello 8
Angela Franiello 7
Antonia Franiello 3

Lots of spelling errors as you can see..will link the image if you can confirm the family is the one you are looking for.

Source Citation: Year: 1910; Census Place: Boston Ward 22, Suffolk, Massachusetts; Roll: T624_623; Page: 27B; Enumeration District: 1599; Image: 956.

Source Information:
Ancestry.com. 1910 United States Federal Census [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: The Generations Network, Inc., 2006. For details on the contents of the film numbers, visit the following NARA web page: NARA Original data: United States of America, Bureau of the Census. Thirteenth Census of the United States, 1910. Washington, D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, 1910. T624, 1,178 rolls.
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Re: Italian Surnames & Family Heritage

Postby nuccia » 04 Jan 2007, 19:30

From the SSDI:

Social Security Death Index
about Angelo Traniello
Name: Angelo Traniello
SSN: xxx-xx-xxxx
Last Residence: 02168 Waban, Middlesex, Massachusetts, United States of America
Born: 4 Aug 1904
Died: Nov 1969
State (Year) SSN issued: Massachusetts (Before 1951 )

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Re: Italian Surnames & Family Heritage

Postby wldspirit » 04 Jan 2007, 19:47

Possible death info on the male line of Charles children, each contains the death certificate number should you want to send for documentation.

Massachusetts Death Index, 1970-2003

Name: Charles J Scipione
Certificate: 059285
Death Place: Hingham
Death Date: 3 Nov 1987
Birth Place: Massachusetts
Birth Date: 19 Feb 1902

Name: Arthur S Scipione
Certificate: 001673
Death Place: Boston
Death Date: 3 Mar 1977
Birth Place: Massachusetts

and a possible record for the spouse of Rita....

Name: John Edwards
Death Place: Plymouth
Death Date: 14 Jun 2003
Birth Date: 5 Sep 1921
Spouse: Rita Scipione

Death info for Charles Senior:

Social Security Death Index
about Charles Scipione
Name: Charles Scipione
SSN: 016-22-5140
Last Residence: 02160 Newton, Middlesex, Massachusetts, United States of America
Born: 15 Jun 1875
Died: Nov 1974
State (Year) SSN issued: Massachusetts (Before 1951
Massachusetts Death Index, 1970-2003
about Charles Scipione
Name: Charles Scipione
Certificate: 051557
Death Place: Weston
Death Date: 9 Nov 1974
Birth Place: Other




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Re: Italian Surnames & Family Heritage

Postby wldspirit » 04 Jan 2007, 19:56

This is the WW 1 draft registraton for Charles.....I had to laugh when I saw the date of birth listed...maybe he was a time traveler..... :P

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Name: Charles Scipione
City: West Newton
County: Middlesex
State: Massachusetts
Birth Date: 12 Jun 1975
Race: White
Roll: 1674462

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Re: Italian Surnames & Family Heritage

Postby EireItaliaDonna » 04 Jan 2007, 22:10

Ok, lots of info there...

This information is correct... as it is my grandmother who is Frances R, age 21.

Charles Scipione 54
Ida R Scipione 47
Charles Scipione 28
Arthur S Scipione 26
John A Scipione 23
Frances R Scipione 21
Rita E Scipione 15

My grandfather, Angelo Traniello, came over when he was in the vicinity of 1 year of age as he was born August 4, 1904. I'm still trying to decifer which one he is because I know he had a sister Marie who could have been Maria but the question is, which one is she since Rosa, Maria and Antonio were popular names in the family.

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Re: Italian Surnames & Family Heritage

Postby EireItaliaDonna » 04 Jan 2007, 22:15

This was pretty funny to read... because I'm pretty sure that Charles' birth year was more like 1875. :)

This is the WW 1 draft registraton for Charles.....I had to laugh when I saw the date of birth listed...maybe he was a time traveler.....

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Name: Charles Scipione
City: West Newton
County: Middlesex
State: Massachusetts
Birth Date: 12 Jun 1975
Race: White
Roll: 1674462

Rita Scipione's husband I recall him living a very long life due to his faithful rowing on the Charles River but the unfortunate thing is that I only know him by his nickname which was "Zeus" Wade... so I'm not sure about the name John Edwards... but the year of death sounds about accurate since he would have passed within the past 10 years.


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