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Help finding my families history in lipari

Postby sokser » 21 Jan 2007, 13:01

I am trying to compose my family history and have reached an obstacle that I havn't been able to overcome and I hope that someone could help me out. I am trying to find out the exact details of my great-grandfather and great-grandmother along with obtaining copies of their vital records from Italy. I know that my great-grandfather went by the name of Joseph Zino in America. However his real name was apparently Giuseppe Zino (however their are rumors and conflicting documents that say the name may have been Zuno or Ziino). He was from the main island of Lipari and was born some time in between 1870 and 1872. He made about three trips (may not be accurate) to America between the 1890's and ~1901. He married a woman who went by the name celestina maria francesca paterno. Other names she was known by was mary zino (as listed on her death certificate in America), francesca paterno, maria francesca celestina paterno. According to her death certificate she was born on August 8th, 1880 (may be 1881, according to a 1930's census record). I believe she was born in Lipari too. They were married between the late 1890's and 1901.

I would like to find out the specifics on who exactly they are, their dates or birth, and their date of marriage along with obtain official copies of these documents. Does anyone know how I can go about finding out this information? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thank you!!!

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Re: Help finding my families history in lipari

Postby jcsm400 » 21 Jan 2007, 21:47

Is this the 1930 census you are referring to?

1930 United States Federal Census
about Joseph Zino
Name: Joseph Zino
Home in 1930: Brooklyn, Kings, New York
Age: 59
Estimated birth year: abt 1871
Birthplace: Italy
Relation to Head of House: Head
Spouse's name: Frances M
Race: White
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Household Members: Name Age
Joseph Zino 59
Frances M Zino 49
Angelo Zino 27
Thomas Zino 26
Catherine Zino 24
Josephine Zino 21
Dominick Zino 18
Bartholomew Zino 15
Peter Zino 12
Elizabeth Zino 9
Frances Zino 7


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Re: Help finding my families history in lipari

Postby sokser » 23 Jan 2007, 03:05

Yes that is it. Do you know any more information?

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Re: Help finding my families history in lipari

Postby jcsm400 » 23 Jan 2007, 04:12

Possible 1920 census?

1920 United States Federal Census
about Angelina Zino
Name: Angelina Zino
[Angelina Zeno]
Home in 1920: Brooklyn Assembly District 10, Kings, New York
Age: 17 years
Estimated birth year: abt 1903
Birthplace: New York
Relation to Head of House: Daughter
Father's name: Joseph
Father's Birth Place: Italy
Mother's name: Mary F
Mother's Birth Place: Italy
Marital Status: Single
Race: White
Sex: Female
Able to read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes
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Household Members: Name Age
Joseph Zino 45
Mary F Zino 40
Angelina Zino 17
Thomas Zino 15
Catharine Zino 13
Josephina Zino 11
Dominick Zino 8
Benjamin Zino 4 6/12
Peter Zino 2


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Re: Help finding my families history in lipari

Postby jcsm400 » 23 Jan 2007, 04:25

Possible naturalization information for Joseph.

Eastern District Court of NY (includes Kings County)

Zino Joseph C - 1942 - Petition Volume 1175 - Cert #324953

Link to printable form to request naturalization record.

http://www.italiangen.org/EDN.stm

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Re: Help finding my families history in lipari

Postby jcsm400 » 23 Jan 2007, 04:48

Do you know if they were married in Italy or the US? Found this, but.....?


NYC Brides Record Index
Bronx, Kings and Queens County Brides


Paterno Maria Jan 11 1903 Cert# 399 Kings County

To request this record.

http://www.italiangen.org/ny_marriage_application.htm

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Re: Help finding my families history in lipari

Postby sokser » 23 Jan 2007, 14:25

I saw the 1920 Census records but the problem was that there was never a josephina, angelina or benjamin.

Also I know the giuseppe zino died in 1933 in an elevator accident. The building was sued and "travelers insurance company" paid insurance money to my maria. They were both buried in the same grave site in St. Johns cemetery in Queens.

Giuseppe Zino owned land in Tom's River in NJ but it had owed taxes on it. He aquired this land in the late 1900's.

The 1930's census record has been confirmed and is for my family.

Once again thank you so much for your help.

Do you know of any sites in Italy where I can search records online?

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Re: Help finding my families history in lipari

Postby sokser » 23 Jan 2007, 14:36

I also just was able to find Mary Zino's death record:

Mary Zino
SSN: 064-42-1336
Last Residence: 11417 Jamaica, Queens, New York, United States of America
Born: 8 Aug 1880
Died: May 1976
State (Year) SSN issued: New York (1965-1966 )

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Re: Help finding my families history in lipari

Postby jcsm400 » 23 Jan 2007, 23:19

sokser wrote:I saw the 1920 Census records but the problem was that there was never a josephina, angelina or benjamin.

I'm not following here..........The posted 1920 census, does have Angelina, Josephine (Josephina) & Benjamin.

Also I know the giuseppe zino died in 1933 in an elevator accident. The building was sued and "travelers insurance company" paid insurance money to my maria. They were both buried in the same grave site in St. Johns cemetery in Queens.

You can check for his death records here. I only came up with a Angelo Zino age 63 (b. 1870) who died in 1933.

http://www.italiangen.org/NYCDEATHSEARCH.ASP?CODE=2

Giuseppe Zino owned land in Tom's River in NJ but it had owed taxes on it. He aquired this land in the late 1900's.

The 1930's census record has been confirmed and is for my family.

Once again thank you so much for your help.

Do you know of any sites in Italy where I can search records online?

You need to know town of birth information to trace family in Italy. Very few records are online.


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Re: Help finding my families history in lipari

Postby JamesBianco » 30 Apr 2007, 17:35

sokser wrote:I am trying to compose my family history and have reached an obstacle that I havn't been able to overcome and I hope that someone could help me out. I am trying to find out the exact details of my great-grandfather and great-grandmother along with obtaining copies of their vital records from Italy. I know that my great-grandfather went by the name of Joseph Zino in America. However his real name was apparently Giuseppe Zino (however their are rumors and conflicting documents that say the name may have been Zuno or Ziino). He was from the main island of Lipari and was born some time in between 1870 and 1872. He made about three trips (may not be accurate) to America between the 1890's and ~1901. He married a woman who went by the name celestina maria francesca paterno. Other names she was known by was mary zino (as listed on her death certificate in America), francesca paterno, maria francesca celestina paterno. According to her death certificate she was born on August 8th, 1880 (may be 1881, according to a 1930's census record). I believe she was born in Lipari too. They were married between the late 1890's and 1901.

I would like to find out the specifics on who exactly they are, their dates or birth, and their date of marriage along with obtain official copies of these documents. Does anyone know how I can go about finding out this information? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thank you!!!



My grandmother has a first cousin (Their mother's were sisters) from Staten Island named Frannie (Frances) Zino. I think she is still alive and would be about 86/87. Her husband is (If I remember right) Joseph Zino also around 86/87 if he is still alive.

Frannie Zino's mother would have been a Crocefissa (or Sophia) Marciano by birth and a native of Carini Sicily.

Any connection?

Jim :)

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Re: Help finding my families history in lipari

Postby suanj » 30 Apr 2007, 20:15

the exact surname spelling is ZIINO (2 i)
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Re: Help finding my families history in lipari

Postby eyetalgal » 30 Apr 2007, 20:50

If you match the Brides Certificate#399 (Kings) for the 1/11/1903 marraige of Maria Paterno to the Groom Certificate#399 (Kings) for 1/11/1903 it gives the groom as Vito Valvaro.

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Postby JamesBianco » 30 Apr 2007, 20:53

You are too good Ang (as always) :)

I still want to know more about My cousin Frannie Zino, I think I will start a new thread.

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Re: Help finding my families history in lipari

Postby mmoretti » 28 Oct 2007, 18:29

Hello... your great-grandfather and my grandfather, John Moretti (misspelled as Moretto in the article), may have encountered each other under less than favorable circumstances in 1927. Email me at moretti@mac.com and I'll send you an article from the NY Times as a PDF which I just purchased from their archives. Good luck in your search!

Michael Moretti


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