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Looking for info on Perrozzi possibly from S. Magno Colle

Postby lilperrozzi » 31 Jan 2007, 01:29

Hi, I just recently found your site, was wondering if anyone here might know how I can go about finding more info on my family. My great grandparents were Rocco and Benedetta(Ferrante) PERROZZI, what records I can find list them as from S. Magno Colle. My mother says that isn't correct but they are from Mouth Casino or somewhere Naples, "there was a Monestary that was bombed in WWII".

They came to the US in 1919 to the Lousiana area, but later moved to Chicago. They had 4 childern Magno, Italia, Peter, and Umberto (my grandfather).

Much thanks in advance for any help.
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Re: Looking for info on Perrozzi possibly from S. Magno Coll

Postby vj » 31 Jan 2007, 01:46

Hi Randi
Welcome to the forum!
Valarie
Do you have your family's ship manifest?
Is this your family in 1930?


Perrozzi Family

edit: added census image
1930 census
Name: Rocco Perrozzi
Home in 1930:
2103 West Ohio Street, rents $23
Chicago, Cook, Illinois

Household:
head Rocco Perrozzi 39 (abt 1891)
- married age 23 (abt 1914)
- immig 1920 Pa
- laborer, building
wife Benedetta Perrozzi 35 (abt 1895)
- married age 19
- immig 1920 Pa
son Magno Perrozzi 14 (abt 1916)
- immig 1920 Al
daughter Edith Perrozzi 10 (abt 1920)
- immig 1920 Al
son Peter Perrozzi 8 (abt 1922)
- born in LA
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Re: Looking for info on Perrozzi possibly from S. Magno Coll

Postby Biff83 » 31 Jan 2007, 01:50

Welcome, Randi!

Likely ship manifest

Pesaro
Arrived NY: 23 March 1920
Rocco Perrozzi, age 28
Maria Benedetta Ferrante, wife, age 25
Magno, son, age 4
Italia, daughter, age 1
Last residence and place of birth Colle San Magno
Destination New Orleans, LA 600 Burbone (Bourbon?) St
Joining the Coggio's Rocco Coggio, Rocco P's brother in law and Maria Ferrana (Ferrante?), Benedetta's sister, possibly married.
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Re: Looking for info on Perrozzi possibly from S. Magno Coll

Postby vj » 31 Jan 2007, 01:54

link to image of Biff's manifest find:

possible 1920 manifest
page 2
lines 21-24
- father in Colle S. Marco Francesco
- going to New Orleans
- born in S.Magno Colle
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Re: Looking for info on Perrozzi possibly from S. Magno Coll

Postby lilperrozzi » 31 Jan 2007, 01:55

Yes! That is my great grandparents.

Pesaro would be the ship they came on? and they did arrive in New York not LA as my mom thought?

How do I go about finding more info about them before they arrive in the US?

Thank you so much for what you have given me thus far.

I apologize for all the questions but I am new to this and learning :)
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Re: Looking for info on Perrozzi possibly from S. Magno Coll

Postby Biff83 » 31 Jan 2007, 02:04

lilperrozzi wrote:Yes! That is my great grandparents.

Pesaro would be the ship they came on? and they did arrive in New York not LA as my mom thought?

How do I go about finding more info about them before they arrive in the US?

Thank you so much for what you have given me thus far.

I apologize for all the questions but I am new to this and learning :)


No problem with questions. We're all still learning. Pesaro was the vessel name and they did arrive at Ellis Island. Not sure how they went to New Orleans, most likely by train, but there might have been coastal ship service available. I'll leave the finding records in Italy for another member. I'm just a "wookie" myself.

BTW, the manifest shows that Benedetta was previously in New Orleans from 1905 to 1909. I'll try to find her ship manifest.
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Re: Looking for info on Perrozzi possibly from S. Magno Coll

Postby vj » 31 Jan 2007, 02:10

Randi & Biff & all,

A little more detail from the manifest:
As Biff pointed out, appears Benedetta may
have been in New Orleans from 1905-1909
perhaps with her sister or her parents?

Valarie

Perrozzi Family

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possible 1920 manifest
page 2
23 Mar 1920 SS Pesaro Naples to NY
lines 21-24
Rocco Perrozzi, 28 (abt 1891)
- possible naturalization notations 11-39647
- father in Colle S. Marco Francesco Perrozzi
- going to New Orleans, LA
- joining b-i-l Rocco Coggio & Maria Ferrana at 600 Bourbon St
- born in S.Magno Colle
wife Maria Benedetta, 25 (abt 1894)
- possible naturalization notations 11-115411 5/18/35
- in New Orleans 1905-1909
son Magno Perrozzi, 4 (abt 1915)
daughter Italia Perrozzi, 1 (abt 1919)
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Re: Looking for info on Perrozzi possibly from S. Magno Coll

Postby vj » 31 Jan 2007, 02:24

Coggio/Ferrante Family
Info appears to match 1920 Perrozzi manifest for
Benedetta's sister Maria & her husband Rocco

Name: Rasgo Coggie
Home in 1920:
600 Bourbon Street, rents
New Orleans Ward 5, Orleans, Louisiana

Household
head Rasgo Coggie 45 or 48 (1872-5)
- immig 1897 Al
- **SPAM**, ice cream
wife Mary Coggie 37 (1883)
- immig 1898 Al
daughter Tomasina Coggie 17 (1903)
- immig 1906 Al
son John Coggie 15 (1905)
- b in New Hampshire
son Tony Coggie 13 (1907)
- b in MA
daughter Conkette Coggie 9 (1911)
- b in IL
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Re: Looking for info on Perrozzi possibly from S. Magno Coll

Postby Biff83 » 31 Jan 2007, 02:25

Randi, your family tree is growing.

Possible 1905 ship manifest for Benedetta and father.

Vessel: Algeria
Arrival NYC: 28 June 1905
Vincenzo Ferrante, age 48, male, married
Benedetta, age 11, daughter
Last residence: Colle San Magno
Destination Boston MA to join Vincente's other daughter Giuseppa at 151 Richmond St, Boston.

Also, on line 13 same manifest Tomasina Coggio, age 3, to join father Rocco in Portsmouth. Last residence Colle S. Magno. There are also other passengers from the same town on this page.

Vincenzo states in US before in Boston from 1891-1904. Bit of an anomaly here with Benedetta's birth year around 1894.
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Re: Looking for info on Perrozzi possibly from S. Magno Coll

Postby vj » 31 Jan 2007, 03:10

Link to Biff's 1905 Manifest find:
Note sister Mary & Rocco Coggi's son Tony was born in MA in abt 1907.

Ferrante Family

28 Jun 1905 SS Algeria Naples to NY, lines 19-20
1905 manifest
father Vincenzo Ferrante (1857)
& daughter Benedetta (1894)
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Re: Looking for info on Perrozzi possibly from S. Magno Coll

Postby Biff83 » 31 Jan 2007, 04:07

lilperrozzi wrote:My great grandparents were Rocco and Benedetta(Ferrante) PERROZZI...S. Magno Colle. My mother says that isn't correct but they are from Mouth Casino or somewhere Naples, "there was a Monestary that was bombed in WWII".

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In checking an online map of Italy, Colle San Magno is about 5 miles northwest of Monte Cassino, just southeast of Roccasecca which I'm certain was the birthplace of Rocco Coggio, Benedetta's brother in law, based on ship manifests.
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Re: Looking for info on Perrozzi possibly from S. Magno Coll

Postby lilperrozzi » 31 Jan 2007, 04:17

You all have been a great help!

I talked to my mother tonight and my great grandfather Rocco Perrozzi used to heard his sheep near the Abbey in Monte Cassino.

I have hit a block on who his parents were tho and I can not find my great grandmother Maria Benedetta's mothers name.

Thank you for pointing out the Ellis Island site its VERY helpful. Anyplace else you all know of that I might start looking for relatives? I know ancestory.com has some forums.

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Re: Looking for info on Perrozzi possibly from S. Magno Coll

Postby Biff83 » 31 Jan 2007, 04:22

lilperrozzi wrote:You all have been a great help!

II have hit a block on who his parents were tho and I can not find my great grandmother Maria Benedetta's mothers name.

Randi


The 1920 ship manifest states Rocco's father's name was Francesco in Colle San Magno. Not sure about Benedetta's mother's first or last name. First name might be on a census record.
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Re: Looking for info on Perrozzi possibly from S. Magno Coll

Postby jcsm400 » 31 Jan 2007, 04:54

Hi lilperrozzi,

The good news is that the LDS Church (Mormons) have filmed the civil registries for the town of Colle San Magno, but only for 1810 thru 1865.

Here is a link to the available films.>

http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Library ... o+civile++

For records before 1810 & after 1865, you will need to write to the town hall. Here is the address & other contact information.

Ufficio di Stato Civile
Comune di Colle San Magno
Via Lago, 1
03030 COLLE SAN MAGNO (FR)
ITALY
Phone Number: (+39) 0776-560051
Fax: (+39) 0776-560290

All requests should be in Italian & include a self addressed return envelope, a copy of your photo ID & one or two international reply coupons. These can be obtained at your post office & pays for the return postage.

Here is a form letter that will translate your request into Italian.

http://www.circolocalabrese.org/resourc ... civile.asp

Here is an Italian-English genealogical word list that will help with translating the records.

http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/ ... Italia.ASP

I hope this helps. If you have any questions or need anything, at anytime, please don't hesitate to ask. We are all happy to help others with their research.

Happy hunting!

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Re: Looking for info on Perrozzi possibly from S. Magno Coll

Postby Biff83 » 31 Jan 2007, 13:39

Another suggestion. In checking ship records for Rocco Coggio, I found a couple of ship manifests that showed he, his wife, and children returned to Italy, possibly to visit family. If you can touch base with any of his grandchildren, they might have information to share since the ship manifests might indicate they kept in close touch with folks in Italy. Likewise, I'd canvas anyone else in your family, aunts, uncles, cousins on the Ferrante and Perrozzi side for details.

Any info you find out might help. For instance, did Rocco Perrozzi have any siblings who emigrated? If so, where/when? Besides Benedetta, Maria and Giuseppa, were there any other siblings who emigrated and where/when? Did Benedetta's father Vincenzo have any other siblings who emigrated and where/when? Answers to these questions could lead to locating addition ship manifests which might lead to discovering Benedetta's mother's first name and surname.
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