Juan Russo, born around 1878 in Calabria

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Juan Russo, born around 1878 in Calabria

Postby Paul_NL » 05 Feb 2007, 12:49

My girlfriend wants to apply to the Italian nationality by begin a great grand child of an Italian citizen. Right now she only need the birth certificate of her great-granddad Juan Russo. He was born around 1878 in Calabria. She doensn´t know in which province he was born. He left as a small child with all his brothers and sisters, a aunt and uncle to Argentina and never returned to Italy.

In Argentina he married Carmen Bustos, got a son, Hugo Luis Russo born 2 oktober 1919 and died in 1928.

Is there any chance anybody can get information about the birth-certificate or what the most likely province was where he is born?

And is there a way to find information in Argentina about this?

Thanks,

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Re: Juan Russo, born around 1878 in Calabria

Postby Paul_NL » 08 Feb 2007, 21:52

Nobody who can help me?

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Re: Juan Russo, born around 1878 in Calabria

Postby suanj » 09 Feb 2007, 06:12

the Russo emigrated in Argentina are more of 1000 records, and the Giovanni Russo are 58 records, as to know what is right? for a search.. to search the immigration year, search on the marriage process for the wedding, search ditto for some wedding of children.. search by will, search by other notarian act, search by family rumor and memory, search by old letters or post cards etc... any trace it is helpful.... suanj
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Re: Juan Russo, born around 1878 in Calabria

Postby Paul_NL » 09 Feb 2007, 08:38

Juan is probally Giovanni?

Date of emigration is just before the turn of the century, probally 1898 or 1899.

Is there any way you can get me the birthplaces of those 58 Giovanni Russo, that would clear some more up as I only know he is from Calabria

Thanks a lot

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Re: Juan Russo, born around 1878 in Calabria

Postby suanj » 09 Feb 2007, 10:39

juan is giovanni... on the ship's manifest of italian immigrants in argentina it is no wrote the birthplace only the age and immigration date... you can make a free account here in english: http://213.212.128.168/radici/ie/defaultie.htm

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Re: Juan Russo, born around 1878 in Calabria

Postby Paul_NL » 09 Feb 2007, 22:58

suanj wrote:juan is giovanni... on the ship's manifest of italian immigrants in argentina it is no wrote the birthplace only the age and immigration date... you can make a free account here in english: http://213.212.128.168/radici/ie/defaultie.htm

and to search directly the record more probable... regards, suanj


Thank you very much :)

It has been helpfull, I am sure I can locate the necessary documents

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Re: Juan Russo, born around 1878 in Calabria

Postby Paul_NL » 10 Feb 2007, 00:28

Surname
RUSSO

Name
GIOVANNI

Parentela
X

Age
14

Sex
M

Marital status
Celibe/Nubile

Occupation
JORNALERO

Religion
CATOLICA

Port of embarkment
NAPOLES

Name of the ship
ESPAGNE

Date of arrival
10-01-1897

Literacy
Non sa

Travel compartment
Terza


This is the great-grandfather. He arrived with a brother, Luigi and an uncle, Samuele.

Right now I have:

1: Year of birth: 1883
2: province of birth: Calabria
3: Married to: Carmen Bustos
4: Sons: Hugo Luis Russo (1919)
5: Arrived in Argentina: 10-01-1897
6: Ship: Espagna
7: Year of death: 1928

Is there any chance there are records available in Italy which says where this person is born?

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Re: Juan Russo, born around 1878 in Calabria

Postby suanj » 10 Feb 2007, 06:20

for to know where they born.. it is necessary a deep search, but before of to start a search in nItaly you must to search more infos in argentina.. Russo surname have a so large presence in Italy.......!
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Re: Juan Russo, born around 1878 in Calabria

Postby Paul_NL » 10 Feb 2007, 09:34

There are no birth records of the persons who moved to Argentina?

What more info do I need?

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Re: Juan Russo, born around 1878 in Calabria

Postby suanj » 10 Feb 2007, 11:07

well you can search in:
- the Giovanni marriage process for the wedding,
-search ditto for wedding of Hugo Luis Russo ...
-search on the death act of both..
-search by testament,
-search by other notarian act,
-search by family rumor and memories,
-search by old letters or post cards etc...
-any trace it is helpful....

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Re: Juan Russo, born around 1878 in Calabria

Postby Paul_NL » 10 Feb 2007, 17:53

Is there no record in Italy of the birth-place in Italy?

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Re: Juan Russo, born around 1878 in Calabria

Postby suanj » 10 Feb 2007, 18:03

no........obviously, all civil records it are in the birthplace and if you don't know the birthplace ..... ... it is impossible...
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Re: Juan Russo, born around 1878 in Calabria

Postby Paul_NL » 12 Feb 2007, 00:24

Seems weird to me that Italy don´t know who emigrated, but let´s see if I can find it a different way

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Re: Juan Russo, born around 1878 in Calabria

Postby suanj » 12 Feb 2007, 06:24

The Italy know very well who are emigrated, but because in the civil record offices all is in order, well any emigrated person is registered in own birthplace, as is legal and right, so the emigrant normally know the birthplace and if he died, it is possible that the descendants know the birthplace, and if the descendants don't know it, well it means that in the past time they was no interested to italian origin, but now that in Italy we are yes italian citizen but also european citizen, and perhaps, the italian origin for someone could be more interesting........
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Re: Juan Russo, born around 1878 in Calabria

Postby Paul_NL » 14 Feb 2007, 10:30

Today I have sended an email to www.tramital.it, I am sure they will be able to locate the birth certificate


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