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I need some help please!!!

Postby shaunna » 12 Feb 2007, 14:27

I realize this is like looking for a needle in a haystack and that is exactly how I feel at this point...My grandparents didn't really talk about their youth or their parents and now my mom and aunts and grandchildren are on the search with limited info..Any help or any push in the right direction would be appreciated more than anyone could ever know!!! This is the information I have come across as to how accurate it is I can't verify all of it....The birth places i can not find and am getting very frustrated...Here goes:

Great Grandpa:
Gabriele Pernicelli
Born:Campo San Carlo(can't find)or Mignono Coserta?
last residence known: Mignono Coserta?(can't find)


Great Grandma:
Guiseppa Dell'Aglio
Born: apparently 16/09/1865 Lesuvi(can't find)

Great grandpa came over to america and arrived on May 2 1903
Age 22
Port: Genoa,Naples and Palermo
Last residence:Mignano(can't find)
Destination Winnipeg,Mantioba canada
Ship Phoencia

I can't find any info on my great grandomthers immigration, or any sibling either of them may have had.
Again any info or a direction to search would be greatly appreciated!!!!
Thank-you all for reading
Shaunna

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Re: I need some help please!!!

Postby vj » 12 Feb 2007, 14:42

Shaunna,
Hi and Welcome to the Forum!
We'll all see what we can do to help.
vj

For everyone's reference, here's your manifest:

1903 Manifest
2 May 1903 SS Phoenicia Naples to NY
Line 15
Gabriele Pernicelli, 22? (abt 1881)
- single
- last residence Mignano? (Mignano Monte Lungo?, Caserta Campania)
- going to Winnipeg Canada
- joining cousin Attanasio? De Luca

note: travelling with Line 15 - joining same cousin
Baldassare De Luca
- last residence Galluccio? (Caserta Campania)

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Re: I need some help please!!!

Postby Biff83 » 12 Feb 2007, 16:38

Ship manifest for aGiuseppa Dell'aglio--age does not match the date of birth Shaunna posted

Vessel Italia arrived NY 14 Oct 1914
Passenger Giuseppa Dell'agli, yob approx 1884, widowed
travelling with children Enrico, Pasquale, Antonia, and Luigi to Winnipeg Canada to join farther Giovanni
Last residence: Mignano, place of birth S. Carlo
Nearest relative in Italy, father in law Michele Mancini

I found this on Ancesry.com but am having trouble locating on Ellis Island to link images.
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Postby nuccia » 12 Feb 2007, 16:59

Link to manifest found by Biff....

Page 1

Page 2

Hope this helps.
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Postby vj » 12 Feb 2007, 17:30

Also:
May be looking for another manifest & US records if this
is the correct family (or husband/father was naturalized)
vj

Biff's Manifest find
note: Giuseppa & children are notated as non-immigrant aliens
note: page 1 all are checked as US citizens in col. 1

Biff: Ellis pages for you - mangled Giuseppa's name (& town),
found under Pasquale Mancini. vj
1914 Dell'Aglio/Mancini Manifest
page 2

edit: added S. Carlo info
from Biff's 1914 Manifest
S Carlo possibility:

San Carlo, Sessa Aurunca, Caserta Campania

Current Surname in Sessa Aurunca: Dell`Agli

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Re: I need some help please!!!

Postby shaunna » 12 Feb 2007, 18:03

First of all I would love to send out a huge thank-you to everyone for your quick responses!!!! Now I'm starting to investigate the cousin that immigrated with great grandpa..Unfortunetly I'm totally stumped about great grandma...
It is my understanding that she married gabriele and they had6 children together:
Domenico antonio(my grandfather)
john
maria
adeline
Tilly
jacueline
Now I will again say that the info we have could be messed up which at this point would not surprise me in the least...
Again thank-you!!!
Shaunna

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Postby vj » 12 Feb 2007, 18:33

Great Grandma:
Guiseppa Dell'Aglio
Born: apparently 16/09/1865 Lesuvi(can't find)


This information is from here? vj
Naturalization site
Nom/ Prénom/ Date.nais./ Lieu naissance
PERNICELLI Guiseppe 16/09/1865 Lesuvi (Ita)

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Postby shaunna » 12 Feb 2007, 19:21

yes i believe that is where we came across it...Still stumped
Thanks again shaunna

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Postby vj » 12 Feb 2007, 19:45

Shaunna,
You may want to look into church records for your family?
vj

A bit of an obit from
31 Jan 1959
"PERNICELLI, aged 77 years.
Prayers p.m. Tuesday in Kerr's Funeral Chapel. I
120 Adelaide St. Funeral service a.m. Wednesday Jn
Holy Rosary Church, Sherbrook; and Bannatyne"

from this site:
[url=http://www.newspaperarchive.com/LandingPage.aspx?type=glpnews&search=pernicelli&img=\\na0039\6788414\42044084.html]newspaper archive[/url]
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Info on the church mentioned in the obit:

"Prior to 1912, most Winnipeg Italians worshipped at
St. Mary's Cathedral on St. Mary Avenue.
In 1911, Father Ferdinand Anzalone (born in Sicily)
congregated some Italian families
at Sacre-Coeur Church (Lydia Street).

In October of 1923, the Holy Rosary Church
opened its doors on Sherbrook and Bannatyne
and operated until 1967 when the new Church
opened on River Avenue"

"Church Sources
Holy Rosary Church.
Parish Papers, Marriage, Death and Baptismal Registers.
Sacre-Coeur Paroisse FRANÇAISe.
Parish Papers, Marriage, Death and Baptismal Registers.
St. Mary's.
Parish Papers, Marriage, Death and Baptismal Registers.
United Church Archives (University of Winnipeg)."

Holy Rosary Church
510 River Avenue
Winnipeg, Manitoba
R3L OE1
Tel: (204) 284-5140

from this site:
THE ITALIAN COMMUNITY IN MANITOBA

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Postby shaunna » 13 Feb 2007, 13:57

I would like to send out yet another huge thank-you to everyone for all their help..I am still stumped about ggrandma but you have given me a variety of new leads I didn't have before...Which was pretty much nothing compared to what I have now..We had no idea of religion etc..Now I have some more digging tools...Thank-you all very much
Shaunna

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Re: I need some help please!!!

Postby vj » 13 Feb 2007, 17:53

Shaunna,
We were all happy to help :D !
Please drop back in when you get a chance and
let us know how you're doing with your research.
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Postby shaunna » 14 Feb 2007, 19:35

totally stumped again...My great grandmothers info just doesn't add up..As I mentioned before the names of her children all of which to my knowledge were born in canada don't match at all...It is almost as if she didn't exist!!!
The obit that you guys directed me to seems to be my great grandpas ...UGH stumped again anyone have any ideas?
Thanks again Shaunna

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Postby jcsm400 » 15 Feb 2007, 00:36

Hi Shaunna,

Can you please provide year of birth for each of their children?

Domenico antonio(my grandfather)
john
maria
adeline
Tilly
jacueline

Thanks,
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Postby jcsm400 » 15 Feb 2007, 03:14

Possible death information for your great, grandmother.

LAST NAME: PERNECLLI
GIVEN NAMES: GUISEPPA
DATE OF DEATH: 10/10/1927
AGE: 43
UNITS OF AGE: YEARS SEX: F
PLACE OF DEATH: WPG
REGISTRATION NUMBER: 1927,049152
REGISTRATION DATE:

To obtain this record>

http://web2.gov.mb.ca/cca/vital/CertificateApps.html

Hope it helps,

:) jcsm
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Re: I need some help please!!!

Postby vj » 15 Feb 2007, 14:58

jcsm,
WOW! :D That record makes a lot of sense!

Great Grandma:
Guiseppa Dell'Aglio Pernicelli
born abt 1884.
This matches Biff's manifest find too!

Wonder which relative belongs to this record?
Nom/ Prénom/ Date.nais./ Lieu naissance
PERNICELLI Guiseppe 16/09/1865 Lesuvi (Ita)

No doubt Shaunna will run across both names in
the church & Manitoba civil records along with
the rest of her family!

vj


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