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Raffaele Valenti

Postby val5940 » 04 Mar 2007, 01:19

Raffaele Valenti was born Jan 1863 Riace, Reggio, Calabria to Domenico Valenti/Fortunata Pazzano, I would like to learn more about this family.

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Re: Raffaele Valenti

Postby wldspirit » 04 Mar 2007, 07:27

Can you be more specific? By providing as much detail as possible it will enable those willing to help.....Did this family stay in Italy? Did they leave for another destination? Are you interested in Italian records or the country of destination? What records have you obtained so far?
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Re: Raffaele Valenti

Postby val5940 » 04 Mar 2007, 12:57

Thank you for your reply, I am rather new to all of this. Raffaele came to the US 19 May 1899, I have information after he came to the states. He settled in West Virginia then moved to Gary, Indiana where he died 1933. Raffaele married Caterina Armocida, who was born 1876, she came to the states about 1905,she also died in Gary, Indiana 1933 . A son, Ilario born 1896 came with her. I would like to know if they had other children in Italy: perhaps that had died before coming to the states. I am also interested in knowing if Raffaele had siblings who also moved to the states. Raffaele and Caterina are my grandparents. None of my aunts or uncles had (they are all dead including my father) any knowledge of their parents life in Italy, none were taught to speak Italian. When my father was enrolled, his oldest brother inrolled him with the last name of Valentine. Raffaele never changed his name from Valenti to Valentine.

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Re: Raffaele Valenti

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Re: Raffaele Valenti

Postby wldspirit » 04 Mar 2007, 14:39

Posting the following records in order to confirm family.......if this is the correct family, then according to the 1910 census, Catherine gave birth to 6 children, with four living, and has been married for 15 years, about 1895.

1920 United States Federal Census

Name: Fred Valenti
Home in 1920: Morgantown Ward 3, Monongalia, West Virginia
Age: 56 years
Estimated birth year: abt 1864
Birthplace: Italy
Relation to Head of House: Head
Spouse's name: Catherine
Father's Birth Place: Italy
Mother's Birth Place: Italy
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Sex: Male
Home owned: Rent
Year of Immigration: 1900
Able to read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes
Image: 951

Household Members: Name Age
Fred Valenti 56
Catherine Valenti 41
Larry Valenti 23
Patrick Valenti 14
Formot Valenti 12
Stella Valenti 11
Dominick Valenti 9
Ralph Valenti 7
James Valenti 4 7/12
Joe Valenti 3 4/12

1930 Census:

Name: Catherine Valentine
Home in 1930: Gary, Lake, Indiana
Age: 53
Estimated birth year: abt 1877
Relation to Head of House: Wife
Spouse's name: Fred

Household Members: Name Age
Fred Valentine 64
Catherine Valentine 53
Dominic Valentine 19
Stella Valentine 21
James Valentine 14
Joseph Valentine 12

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Re: Raffaele Valenti

Postby val5940 » 04 Mar 2007, 14:55

:D Thank you, yes this is the correct family. The closest Family History Center to me was 30 miles, however, it has closed. The next closest is 100 miles, I live in a very rural area. Where was the family in 1910? I was told Raffaele came to the states with a cousin, they were going to New York, I have not been able to locate him on the 1900 census. Valerie

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Re: Raffaele Valenti

Postby vj » 04 Mar 2007, 14:59

Hi Valerie & wldspirit!
This may help locate Raffaele's cousin:
Three going to the same address 62 New Utrecht Ave (Brooklyn)
Valarie

1899 Manifest

Line 28
Annibale Tipaldo, 22
- last residence Rocella (Roccella Ionica, Reggio?)
- joining cousin Valente

Line 29
Cosimo? Domenico Valente, 37
- last residence Rocella (Roccella Ionica, Reggio?)
- joining brother Francesco

Line 30
Raffaele Valente, 36
- last residence Riace
- joining cousin Francesco

(note: last residence, may not be town of birth)

edit: added destination census
1900 census
possible cousin Francesco Valenti
on New Utrecht Ave

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Re: Raffaele Valenti

Postby wldspirit » 04 Mar 2007, 15:15

Here is the 1910 census:

1910 United States Federal Census

Name: Fred Valente
Age in 1910: 45
Estimated birth year: abt 1865
Birthplace: Italy
Relation to Head of House: Head
Father's Birth Place: Italy
Mother's Birth Place: Italy
Spouse's name: Cathrina
Home in 1910: Morgantown Ward 3, Monongalia, West Virginia
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Gender: Male
Year of Immigration: 1899

Household Members: Name Age
Fred Valente 45
Cathrina Valente 33
Larry Valente 14
Stella Valente 2
Patsy Valente 4
Fortunate Valente 3

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Re: Raffaele Valenti

Postby Biff83 » 04 Mar 2007, 15:16

Possible death certificate for son Ralph, 21 Nov 1923, 11 years 6 months, 12 days, from West Virgina archives.

http://www.wvculture.org/vrr/va_dcdetai ... Id=1570443
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Re: Raffaele Valenti

Postby wldspirit » 04 Mar 2007, 15:28

The eldest son, Larry, confirms birthplace of Calabria on his WW 1
draft registration.
Since the family history center is so far, you can write to Italy for records.
However, Vj is correct, the last residence and the town of birth may not be the same.
Wouldn't hurt to send for a birth or marriage record, and see where it takes you.
Fred and Catherine were married about 1895, with Larry's birth in 1896.

Here is an interactive letter which you can use for your request:
http://www.circolocalabrese.org/resourc ... /index.asp

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Re: Raffaele Valenti

Postby wldspirit » 04 Mar 2007, 15:32

:oops: Forgot to give the website, includes the address and other interesting tidbits of info:

http://calabria.indettaglio.it/eng/comu ... riace.html

and the town website:

http://www.recil.net/recil/riace/


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Re: Raffaele Valenti

Postby Biff83 » 04 Mar 2007, 15:39

Sorry. Should have refreshed the thread before posting.
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Re: Raffaele Valenti

Postby wldspirit » 04 Mar 2007, 15:45

The 1910 census have already been posted........by 1930 they are in Indiana.
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Re: Raffaele Valenti

Postby val5940 » 04 Mar 2007, 19:09

Thank you very much for the information, the sites were interesting, I shall spend more time looking at them. Shouldn’t Raffaele be on the 1900 census?

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Re: Raffaele Valenti

Postby val5940 » 05 Mar 2007, 14:38

The death of Ralph Valenti is my uncle. This is what someone send me about Raffaele: He came to the states 1899
He had paid his ship ticked himself and had 8$ with
him. He had never visited US before. His destination was New York,
where he had a cousin named Francesco, living on New Utrecht Avenue
62-44 (or maybe it was 62-64)

He didn't come to US alone. Together with him there were other 2
cousins. One was the brother of the Francesco they were going to
visit. His name was Eufemio Domenico. He was 34, married, a barber,
was able to read and write and had already been in US once.
The other cousin was , 22, single, country-man. Both
of them were from Roccella Ionica.

Shouldn't Raffaele &his cousins be on the 1900 census somewhere?


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