D'Angelo from Cesacastina.

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D'Angelo from Cesacastina.

Postby TheresaM » 06 Mar 2007, 18:25

My grandfather, Carmine D'Angelo, was born in Cesacastina in 1890. (His parents Emidio D'Angelo and Sabata Toppi). My grandmother, Italia Chiantelli(??), I believe was born in Naples but not sure; don't know her parents names - her mother died in childbirth, and I believe her father may have emigrated to the US as well. My grandparents were married with at least one child (a boy) when my grandfather emigrated to New York, approximately 1912. My grandmother followed later; don't know when. My grandfather had a home in Italy when he left; he wasn't sure he would stay in the US. From what I understand, his sister moved into his house. I think one of my grandmother's sisters may have married a Schiavi, and also emigrated.

I can't find either of my grandparents on the Ellis Island ship registry, and don't where to write in Cesacastina to see if there is a marriage certificate, birth certificate for my uncle, etc. Any suggestions as to where to start?
Thanks for any help.

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Re: D'Angelo from Cesacastina.

Postby vj » 06 Mar 2007, 18:49

Hello & Welcome to the Forum! :D
We'll all see what we can do to help.
Great summary of your family info -
thanks!
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Re: D'Angelo from Cesacastina.

Postby TheresaM » 06 Mar 2007, 19:05

P.S. I've found my mom and her family on the NY state census for Niagara Falls; that was neat but nothing there I didn't know or that could help, other than that the second oldest may have been born in Italy as well. (I know the oldest boy died when he was still very young so he isn't on the census). I also have my grandfather's social security application.

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Re: D'Angelo from Cesacastina.

Postby vj » 06 Mar 2007, 19:25

To make sure we're headed in the right direction...
Is this the correct census for your family in 1920?
You have which other census?
Thanks!

possible 1920 census
Home in 1920:
2021 Grand Ave, owns with mortgage
Niagara Falls Ward 9, Niagara, New York

head Carvain (Carmine) Dangelo 29 (abt 1891)
- immig 1912 Al
- laborer, Niagra chemical
wife Italia 25 (abt 1895)
- immig 1912 Al
daughter Pearl 6 (abt 1914) NY
daughter Amalia 3 (abt 1917) NY
son Faust 2 (abt 1918) NY
daughter Elsie 5/12 (abt 1919) NY
boarder Agustin Renandaldo 54 (abt 1866)

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Re: D'Angelo from Cesacastina.

Postby vj » 06 Mar 2007, 19:35

possible 1917 WWI Draft Registration Card
Name: Carmino Antonio Dangelo
Birth: 4 May 1890
Birth: Crognaleto, Province Teramo
Residence:
630? 18th Street
Niagara Falls, Niagara, New York
Other: Niagara Falls City
Wife & two children

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Re: D'Angelo from Cesacastina.

Postby vj » 06 Mar 2007, 19:45

possible 1913 manifest
page 2
25 Oct 1913 SS Stampalia Napoli to NY
lines 10 & 11
Note: in US before, non-immigrant alien

Italia Chiandella, 19 (abt 1894)
- last residence Niagara Falls & Crognaleto
- family in Crognaleto mother-in-law Elisabetta
- in Niagara Falls 1908/1912?
- joining husband Carmine D'Angelo at 490 20th St
- born in Cortino (Teramo)
Pierria? D Angelo, 6 (abt 1907)
note: possible naturalization notations
5A? 5134 4-22-43
- born in Cortino (Teramo)

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Re: D'Angelo from Cesacastina.

Postby TheresaM » 06 Mar 2007, 20:04

Wow - can't believe all the information, so quickly!!! The 1920 census is the right family. The oldest boy wouldn't have been alive at that point. (My mom wasn't born yet; the census that I have must be from 1930. Four more children followed - Santina, Louis, Mary and Emidio). The draft registration card wouldn't fit - they lived on 17th Street. Also, my grandfather was born in March and I don't know if he had a middle name. The ship information seems like it's right for my grandmother though I never heard that she left and came back - I'll go to the site and look at it. (What does non-immigrant alien mean?) Their first child was definitely a boy unless she was now traveling with another relative. And, maybe when they said she was from Naples, they just meant she left from Naples(?). Thank you so much.

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Re: D'Angelo from Cesacastina.

Postby vj » 06 Mar 2007, 20:05

possible 1909 manifest
page 2

23 April 1909 SS Montevideo Naples to NY

lines 2-4
- last residence Crognaleto
- family in Crognaleto, uncle Alfredo Di Diomisio?
- destination Niagara Falls
- joining father Luigi Chiantella
- all born in Crognaleto
Maria Chiantella, 18 (abt 1890-1)
Itala Chiantella, 14 (abt 1894-5)
Italo Chiantella, 10 (abt 1898-9)
Aiola Chiantella, 7 (abt 1901-2)

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Re: D'Angelo from Cesacastina.

Postby Biff83 » 06 Mar 2007, 20:20

Teramo Province showing both Cortino and Crognaleto. Left of center on the map. Crognaleto is about 5 km southwest of Cortino.

http://www.italycyberguide.com/Geograph ... eramop.htm
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Re: D'Angelo from Cesacastina.

Postby vj » 06 Mar 2007, 20:35

Looks like a few more leads for you to track down!
Let us know if you want us to continue to look, or would
you rather catch your breath? :D
Valarie

Chiantella Family
possible 1910 census
bears close examination :wink:
has Mary listed as wife
may have Schiavi son-in-law


Home in 1910:
429 20th Street, rents house
Niagara Falls Ward 7, Niagara, New York

head Louis Channell 55 (abt 1855)
- widower
- immig 1906 Al
wife (prob. wife of Dom.) Mary 18 (abt 1892)
- married 1 yr
- immig 1909
daughter Ethel 10* (abt 1900)
- * note prob 16 yrs old, not 10 (abt 1894)
- immig 1909
son Altza 11 (abt 1899)
- immig 1909
son-in-law Domonick Sjave 20 (abt 1890) NY
- married 1 yr

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Re: D'Angelo from Cesacastina.

Postby Biff83 » 06 Mar 2007, 20:40

Possible 1913 ship manifest for Carminantonio D'Angelo, note on 2 pages

Line 18, age 23
Nearest relative in Italy, wife Italia
Last residence, Crognaleto
Destination Niagara Falls, NY to join father in law Luigi Chiantella
Previously in US
Place of birth Crognaleto Teramo

http://ellisisland.org/search/shipManif ... 0697010330
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Re: D'Angelo from Cesacastina.

Postby vj » 06 Mar 2007, 20:45

Biff, great info :) on the two towns & neat manifest :wink: .
Really ties some of these records together!
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Re: D'Angelo from Cesacastina.

Postby Biff83 » 06 Mar 2007, 20:51

Possible 1907 Manifest for Carminantonio D'Angelo

Line 10, age 17
Destination Niagara Falls to join ?
Last residence Casa....?
Place of birth Casa.....?

Note passenger on line 9 is from Cortino and passenger on line 11 is from
Teramo.
If both manifests are for the same person, we have a discrepancy with town of birth. Name Carminantonio gives more credence to previously post WWI Draft card.

http://ellisisland.org/search/shipManif ... 1949110155
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Re: D'Angelo from Cesacastina.

Postby vj » 06 Mar 2007, 20:54

Biff,
You're right, there is an earlier manifest.
Appears the one in 1913 has Carmine in US
previously?
Valarie

edit:
Name of town:

how abt Cesacastina (looks like Casa Gastina on 1907 manifest)

The commune of Crognaleto, situated in a high
position at the foot of the Gran Sasso, comprises many
small centres, such as Tottea, Piano Roseto,
Cesacastina, Piano Vomano, Nerito, Frattoli,
San Giorgio

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Re: D'Angelo from Cesacastina.

Postby TheresaM » 06 Mar 2007, 21:14

No, please, please keep looking!! Brought a tear to my eye - I never thought I'd get so much information so quickly! Sabata is certainly Elisabetta but the draft registration throws me off. I thought he was born in March, and the birthplace doesn't match, but I'll ask my mom about his birthday. (I know she doesn't know (or remember) where he was born. All they ever said was a small town outside of Rome. With the exception of two, all aunts, uncles and mom are still living - most don't know much about the immigration history, but my mom knew her cousins, etc. I'll be pulling info from her tonight!).

I know you have all the right families - my mom told me years ago that the courts made her mom change her name from Italia to Ethel (they told her something to the effect that no one can use the name of a country for a first name). She never used it that I knew of.

I've got so many leads now, thank you very much. (Are there phone books or the like available on line for foreign countries; when my grandfather died, he left a letter, unmailed, to his sister. My mom doesn't know where it is but I know he had family still there). Again, I can't thank you enough.


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