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Great-grandparents

Postby palex » 16 Apr 2007, 03:04

Hi everyone,
I am attempting to obtain birth and marriage certificates for my great-grandparents, both of whom were born and married in Italy. The issue is that I have very little information on them, so I'm trying to figure out where geographically I could attempt to send a request to a commune. Here is all the info I have:

Great-grandfather - Felice Brogna, DOB - Dec. 11, 1878
Great-grandmother - Raffaela Defronzo, DOB - unknown

Any leads would be greatly appreciated. Thanks so much
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Re: Great-grandparents

Postby ricbru » 16 Apr 2007, 08:38

Hello
on Ellis Island arrive a Felice BROGNA born on 1879 in Montemiletto, province of Avellino

http://ellisisland.org/search/shipManif ... 500195024&

http://ellisisland.org/search/shipManif ... 2687020217

I hope it helps, bye Riccardo

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Re: Great-grandparents

Postby palex » 16 Apr 2007, 14:23

Riccardo,
Many thanks. That is certainly him. I was wondering where "Mintiletto" is. You mentioned that it is in the province of Avellino, which sounds correct, but I was unable to find it on a map or in any search engine.

Also, is it possible to download the ship manifest? It seems as if the document was protected.

To request his birth/marriage certificate, I'm guessing it would be a good bet to send a request to the Commune of Avellino?... or do I need to go even more local (Mintiletto ??)?

Again,
Thanks so much.

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Re: Great-grandparents

Postby liviomoreno » 16 Apr 2007, 14:24

If you look at the two manifests pointed out by Riccardo, you will notice that Felice Brogna arrived in USA a first time on May 5 1898, when he was 19 and he was single. The second time that he arrived, on May 29 1901, he was married!

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Re: Great-grandparents

Postby palex » 16 Apr 2007, 15:05

Livio,
Thanks... I just noticed that myself. I actually had to register at the Ellis Island site to view the 1898 manifest for some reason. That definitely helps to determine an approximate date of marriage... and I think it's safe to assume that the town of "Mintiletto" should in fact be "Montemiletto".

I will send a request to the Commune of Montemiletto. Thanks again for everyone's assistance... very much appreciated.

Anyone know if those manifests can be downloaded?

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Postby liviomoreno » 16 Apr 2007, 15:14

palex wrote:Anyone know if those manifests can be downloaded?
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You can purchase them!

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Re: Great-grandparents

Postby brujaojos » 16 Apr 2007, 19:49

Hi there,

Per the information that Ricbru gave you, here is a link for the manifests for Felice.

[url=http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/9280/feice1898manifestmo5.jpg]Name: Felice Brogna
Arrival Date: 5 May 1898
Estimated birth year: abt 1879
Age: 19
Gender: Male
Ethnicity/Race/Nationality: Italian
Ship Name: Fulda
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Line: 8
Microfilm Serial: 15
Microfilm Roll: T715_20
Page Number: 134[/url]

Just a little tidbit on the 1901 manifest. It states Felice came with his brother, Angelo, who is on the next line; and they were going to go see their brother, Gennaro, in Boston, MA.

[url=http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/4927/felice1901manifestzq2.jpg]Name: Felice Bragna
Arrival Date: 28 May 1901
Estimated birth year: abt 1879
Age: 22
Gender: Male
Ethnicity/Race/Nationality: Italian
Ship Name: Aller
Search Ship Database: View the Aller in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Line: 10
Microfilm Serial: 15
Microfilm Roll: T715_200
Page Number: 249[/url]




Now I found the following which is a possible great clue. Per the manifest of Michele. It states he left his father, Alessandro in Italy and was going to go see his brother, Felice in Boston, MA.

Michele Manifest Page 1

Michele Manifest Page 2

Name: Michele Brogna
Arrival Date: 27 Jul 1913
Age: 24 Years
Estimated birth year: abt 1889
Gender: Male
Ethnic Background: Italian (South) (Italian)
Port of Departure: Naples, Italy
Ship Name: Palermo
Port of Arrival: Boston, Massachusetts
Friend's Name: Felice Brogna
Last Residence: Italy
Birthplace: Mantameleth, Italy
Microfilm Roll Number: 199

Also, Achille was a brother to Felice.

Name: Achille Brogna
Arrival Date: Apr 1902
Age: 19 Years
Estimated birth year: abt 1883
Gender: Male
Port of Departure: Naples, Italy
Ship Name: Cambroman
Port of Arrival: Boston, Massachusetts
Friend's Name: Felice Brogna
Last Residence: Mentmilette
Microfilm Roll Number: 50

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Re: Great-grandparents

Postby brujaojos » 16 Apr 2007, 19:59

Hi Again,

About the town of Montemiletto, it is in the Province of Avellino.

Now the Family History Center does have microfilm for the town of Montemiletto. The films cost $5.75 a roll. On the films you can find copies of the birth, marriage, and death records of your ancestors.

Here is the link for the film numbers.
http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Library ... eno=409817

Here is the link to find the nearest Family History Center.
http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Library ... et_fhc.asp

Just in case you do not want to use the microfilm, you can always write to the town directly for records. Here is the address.

Ufficio Stato Civile
Comune di Montemiletto l
Via Roma, 2
83038 Montemiletto AV
ITALY


Here is a link that you can use that will help you translate you request into Italian.
http://www.circolocalabrese.org/resourc ... civile.asp

Here is the main web site for the town.
http://www.comune.montemiletto.av.it/

I hope this helps some,
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Re: Great-grandparents

Postby palex » 16 Apr 2007, 20:34

Trish,
Thank you so much for doing all of that... it was truly an enormous help. I will most definitely pay a visit to a Family History Center.

Eternal thanks.
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