Achille Iacini ??

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Achille Iacini ??

Postby ambrijes » 01 Jun 2007, 03:35

Hello! Does anyone know anything about the Italian origin of this person? Probably Southern Italy and born around 1875-1881. Believe he came to U.S. around 1913 and married a Martina Gutierrez (Mexico??). Any help would be soooo much appreciated! :D Nanette

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Re: Achille Iacini ??

Postby wldspirit » 01 Jun 2007, 03:48

Welcome to the forum!!

Have you located any US records? Did they have children? Do you know their names and birthdates? In which state did they live?
Naturalization and manifest records could help pinpoint exact location in Italy.

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Re: Achille Iacini ??

Postby mjones » 01 Jun 2007, 04:45

Here is a possible ship's manifest for Achille Iacini:

Achille Iacini
Arrival Date: 18 May 1913
Estimated birth year: abt 1889
Age: 24
Gender: Male
Port of Departure: Naples, Italy
Ethnicity/Race/Nationality: Italian (South) (Italian)
Ship Name: Luisiana
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Birth Location Other: cartaghove

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Re: Achille Iacini ??

Postby vj » 01 Jun 2007, 12:51

Nanette,
Is this the correct family?
Thanks! Valarie

Name: Achilles F Iacini
Social Security #: xxx-xx-4882
Birth Date: 1 Jun 1881
Death Date: 11 Jul 1950
Death Place: San Francisco
Father's Surname: Iacini

edit: added Martina's possible death record
Name: Martina Iacini
Social Security #: 0
Birth Date: 26 Jan 1885
Birthplace: Mexico
Death Date: 23 Dec 1950
Death Place: Napa
Father's Surname: Gutierez
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Home in 1930:
San Francisco, San Francisco, California
head Achille Iacini 55 (abt 1875) IT
- widower/divorced/separated?
- father b in IT, mother b in Mexico?
- immig 1886 Na
son Joseph Iacini 19 (abt 1911) CA
son Orlando Iacini 18 (abt 1912) CA
son Olifonso (Alphonso) Iacini 15 (abt 1915) CA
son Ralph Iacini 11 (abt 1919) CA

son Joseph
Name: Joseph Iacini
Birth Date: 21 Oct 1911
Mother's Maiden Name: Gullerez
Birth County: Alameda

Name: Joseph G Iacini
Social Security #: xxx-xx-3266
Birth Date: 12 Oct 1911
Birthplace: California
Death Date: 5 Jun 1963
Death Place: San Francisco
Mother's Maiden Name: Gutirrez

son Orlando
Name: Orlando J Iacini
Social Security #: xxx-xx-6815
Birth Date: 27 Dec 1912
Birthplace: California
Death Date: 25 Dec 1970
Death Place: Alameda

son Alphonso
Name: Alphonso S (Shipone) Iacini
Social Security #: xxx-xx-1083
Birth Date: 8 May 1914
Birthplace: California
Death Date: 25 May 1972
Death Place: San Francisco

son Ralph
Name: Rafael Iacini
Birth Date: 26 May 1918
Mother's Maiden Name: Gutierre
Birth County: San Francisco

Name: Ralph Iacini
Social Security #: xxx-xx-1941
Birth Date: 26 May 1918
Birthplace: California
Death Date: 22 Mar 1984
Death Place: Sonoma

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Re: Achille Iacini ??

Postby vj » 01 Jun 2007, 13:16

If this is the correct family, could Achille have immig in 1886/89 from Italy
and 1902 from Mexico?
Have you located his naturalization paperwork? May have the town in Italy...
Naturalization and manifest records could help pinpoint exact location in Italy. wldspirit

possible 1920 census
possible 1920 census page 2
Home in 1920:
San Francisco Assembly District 33, San Francisco, California
head Archille Jacini 44 (abt 1876) IT, parents b in IT
- immig 1902, Na 1908
wife Matina Jacini 33 (abt 1887) Mexico, parents b in Mexico
- immig 1902, Na 1908
son Charles Jacini 17 (abt 1903) Mexico
son Joseph Jacini 9 (abt 1911) CA
son Alonzo Jacini 7 (abt 1913) CA
son Alphonse Jacini 5 1/12 (abt 1914) CA
son Raphael Jaimes 1 6/12 (abt 1918) CA

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possible 1910 census
Home in 1910:
San Francisco Assembly District 44, San Francisco, California
head Achilles Gracino 36 (abt 1874) IT
- married 9 years (abt 1901)
- immig 1889, Na
wife Martina Gracino 25 (abt 1885) Mexico
- 1 child born & living
- immig 1903
son Charles Gracino 8 (abt 1902) Mexico
- immig 1903

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Re: Achille Iacini ??

Postby vj » 01 Jun 2007, 13:35

correct birth date?

possible 1918 WWI Draft Registration Card
Achille Jacini 45
1462 Underwood Ave
San Francisco
born 2 Jun 1873
naturalized
printer, Italian Press Co
wife Martina at same address

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Re: Achille Iacini ??

Postby ambrijes » 02 Jun 2007, 18:11

Oh my gosh! Thank you everyone! These all seem to be accurate and I did not know of Charles Iacini...I have so much homework to do. Its amazing how many differences in spelling there are. Yes, some of the five children use Jacini and some Iacini as their surnames...wondering what happened there???? I am so excited to get started with this! Thank you, thank you, thank you!!!! :-) Nanette

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Re: Achille Iacini ??

Postby Cathynap » 02 Jun 2007, 19:50

ambrijes wrote:Oh my gosh! Thank you everyone! These all seem to be accurate and I did not know of Charles Iacini...I have so much homework to do. Its amazing how many differences in spelling there are. Yes, some of the five children use Jacini and some Iacini as their surnames...wondering what happened there???? I am so excited to get started with this! Thank you, thank you, thank you!!!! :-) Nanette

The j's replaced by i's is common. My grandmother's name was Majoulo but in the US it became Maioulo - Ajello became Aiello. Anyone know why? Someone once told me there was no j in Italian. Is this true?

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Re: Achille Iacini ??

Postby Biff83 » 02 Jun 2007, 21:23

Cathy,
There is no "j" in Tuscan Italian. However, "j" was used in Calabria and Sicily. I believe because of the Spanish influence.

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Re: Achille Iacini ??

Postby Cathynap » 02 Jun 2007, 23:10

Thanks Biff - you know everything! :D So in Calabria how do they pronounce a j - is it like an i? Or did the names just get misspelled because of the visual similarities?

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Re: Achille Iacini ??

Postby ambrijes » 05 Jun 2007, 03:33

Thanks Cathy & Biff! I always wondered why three of the five sons used Jacini and the other two Iacini. There are now multiple cousins from all five brothers using both names....confusing but now it makes more sense. Thanks again...Nanette :-)


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