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Riccio - Nardi families

Postby criccio » 03 Jun 2007, 19:22

Hi,
My grandfather Joseph (Giuseppe) Riccio was born in Saracena in 1886, emigrated to U.S. in 1906, and later married Josephine Nardi, and moved to Connecticut.
Although I have birth certificates for Joseph Riccio and his parents. I have been unable to find out anything about the Nardi side. Evidently, her family was opposed to the marriage and cut off all ties with Josephine from that point onward. My father, Vincent Joseph Riccio, was named after Josephine's father, Vincent Nardi. He vaguely recalled having been told that Josephine was born in Italy and came to states as a toddler (possibly incorrect, maybe from Castelgrande). In U.S., Nardis possibly from Bronx? Any ideas how to find out more? (Noone seems to have copy of marriage certificate, nor know where the ceremony was performed).

I also understood from my father that Joseph Riccio had two brothers (or maybe cousins) that emigrated to U.S a few years later than he did, and married two sisters, all from Saracena. Sound familiar to anyone out there?

Thanks in advance for any help.
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Re: Riccio - Nardi families

Postby vj » 03 Jun 2007, 22:02

Hi and Welcome to the forum :D !
You have some great information to go on.
If this looks like your family in 1930,
perhaps we can find Josephine in 1910
on a census with her family.
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click here possible 1930 census
Home in 1930:
619 South Quaker Lane, rents $28
West Hartford, Hartford, Connecticut

Joseph Ruccio 43 (abt 1887) IT
- married age 30 (abt 1916-7)
- immig 1907, Na
- machine operator
Josephine 29 (abt 1901) IT
- married age 16 (abt 1917)
- immig 1902, Na
children all born in CT
Elizabeth 13 (abt 1917)
Leon 11 (abt 1919)
Phillip 10 (abt 1920)
Vincent 8 (abt 1922)
Mary 7 (abt 1923)
Joseph 2 (abt 1928)
Leonard 1/12 (abt 1930)

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Re: Riccio - Nardi families

Postby vj » 03 Jun 2007, 22:18

an interesting 1910 census, no connection yet

1910 Nardi Census
Home in 1910:
233 East 111th Street, rents
Manhattan Ward 12, New York, New York

head Vincenzo Moede (Nardi?) 35 (abt 1875) IT
- married twice
- married 2 yrs (abt 1908)
- immig 1900, fp (filed papers)
- laborer, general
(second) wife Anne Marie 34 (abt 1876) IT
- married once
- no children
- immig 1907
daughter Josephine 10 (abt 1900) IT
- immig 1901
son Tony 8 (abt 1902) NY
son Michael 6 (abt 1904) NY

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Re: Riccio - Nardi families

Postby criccio » 04 Jun 2007, 05:15

Wow. That was fast.
The data you listed for Riccio in census from 1930 is definitely my father's parents and siblings. Census data for earlier years, if available, might show another daughter, Cynthia, who was killed by a car as a young child. Leonard also died in childhood and therefore might not appear in some later listings.

I would have to agree that the Nardi census data in second post not connected.

Thanks for your efforts!

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Re: Riccio - Nardi families

Postby vj » 04 Jun 2007, 13:54

A couple of Military Records

1917 WWI Draft Card
Joseph Riccio 30
110 Ward St
Hartford, Hartford, CT
Declarant
born 14 Aug 1887 in Italy
Gardner for City of Hartford at Colt? Park
Wife & one child

1942 WWII Draft Card
page 2
Joseph Riccio 55
25 Levesque Ave
West Hartford, Hartford, CT
born 14 Aug 1886 in Italy
wife Josephine N at same address
Self employed

Death Records

Name: Joseph Riccio SSN: xxx-xx-9470
Last Residence: 06110 W Hartford, Hartford, Connecticut
Born: 14 Aug 1886
Died: May 1972 State (Year)
SSN issued: Connecticut (Before 1951 )

Name: JOSEP RICCIO
Death Date: 6 May 1972
Death Place: West Hartford, Connecticut
Age: 87 Years
Marital Status: Widowed
State File #: 11070
Residence: West Hartford, Connecticut

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Re: Riccio - Nardi families

Postby vj » 04 Jun 2007, 14:22

possible 1906 manifest
6 May 1906 SS Florida Napoli to NY
Line 17
Giuseppe Riccio 20
last residence Saracena
destination NY
joining brother Leonardo at 326 East 115th? Street

note: great free site for finding NY manifests
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Re: Riccio - Nardi families

Postby vj » 04 Jun 2007, 14:34

interesting possibility for brother Leonardo

possible 1942 WWII Draft Registration Card
page 2
Leonard Riccio 62
23 Nesbit Ave
West Hartford, Hartford, CT
born 23 Sep 1879 in Seracina, Cosenza
contact Mrs Francis Riccio at same address
employed at Underwood Elliot Fisher Co
(did not sign his card)

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Re: Riccio - Nardi families

Postby criccio » 04 Jun 2007, 21:34

I am amazed at how much you found. Thank you so much. All of the docs that you provided for Joseph ring true, including 1886 birthdate and date of death. I remember the house on Levesque avenue. And my grandfather was an incredible gardner, who had a carpentry workshop in the yard.
The manifest also fits with my info. The WWI draft registration is a bit off, but maybe just inaccurate, blue eyes would be right, same date of birth, diff year? probably same.

Perhaps the census information you provided on Nardis is the right family. If Joseph went to NY to his brother Leonard on 326 East 115th om 1906 and the Nardis were on 233 East 111th in 1910 ... perhaps that is where/how they met.
Any ideas how to find out more about the Nardis?
Thanks again.

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Re: Riccio - Nardi families

Postby vj » 04 Jun 2007, 21:42

brother Leonardo?
possible 1930 census
Home in 1930:
23 Nesbit Ave, owns $6,000
West Hartford, Hartford, Connecticut

Leonardo Riccio 50 (abt 1880) IT
- married age 25 (abt 1905)
- immig 1906, Al
- sweeper, typewriter factory
Frances B 49 (abt 1881) IT
- married age 24
- immig 1907, Al
Rocco 23 (abt 1907) IT
- immig 1907, Al
Tony 21 (abt 1909) CT
Leo S 20 (abt 1910) CT
Rose A 18 (abt 1912) CT
Antoinette N 16 (abt 1914) CT
Dominick 14 (abt 1916) CT
Frank 11 (abt 1919) CT
Patrick 8 (abt 1922) CT
Jenny 6 (abt 1924) CT

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Re: Riccio - Nardi families

Postby vj » 04 Jun 2007, 21:46

Been trying to find more records on that particular Nardi family
without success. Will look again for another census w/o Josephine
to see if we can find a few more clues about this family.

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If a confirmed record could be found on this site, it's easy to
write away for the original.

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Re: Riccio - Nardi families

Postby vj » 04 Jun 2007, 23:51

This appears to match the 1910 Nardi Census

Have you checked FamilySearch?
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record from FamilySearch, IGI:
Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record

VINCENZO NARDI
Birth: Castel Grande, Portenza, , Italy
(Castelgrande, Province of Potenza, Region Basilicata)

Father: ANTONIO
Mother: MARIA GUISEPPA
Spouse: ANNA MARIA MAROTTE
Marriage: 21 MAY 1908
Manhattan, New York, New York

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ANNA MARIA MAROTTE
Birth: Rapane, Portenza, , Italy
(Rapone, Province of Potenza, Region Basilicata)

Father: AGOSTINO
Mother: MARIA DELUCA

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How to order record
Surname/ Given Name/ Month of Marriage/ Day of Marriage/ Year of Marriage/ County/ Certificate Number/ Soundex
Nardi Vincenzo May 21 1908 Manhattan 9990 N630

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Re: Riccio - Nardi families

Postby vj » 05 Jun 2007, 00:18

more clues 1910 Nardi family
1906 manifest Ann Marie Marotta & her mother
Lines 2 & 3
edit: added
Vincenzo's second wife & her mother
Not much more info except Dr memo
1906 Detained page

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Re: Riccio - Nardi families

Postby Biff83 » 05 Jun 2007, 00:21

Valarie,
Great finds!! I've been checking also; the Nardi's have proved elusive.

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Re: Riccio - Nardi families

Postby vj » 05 Jun 2007, 00:37

Hi Biff :D !
perhaps NJ?

more possible clues
may be Tony Nardi from 1910 census
if Josephine's brother, will have her mother's
name on his birth record

New York City Births, 1891-1902
Name/ Birth Date/ Certificate Number
Antonio Nardi 10 Nov 1902 45212

matching SSDI
Anthony NARDI
Birth Date: 10 Nov 1902
Death Date: Jan 1981
Social Security Number: xxx-xx-0386
State or Territory Where Number Was Issued: New Jersey
Death Residence
Localities ZIP Code: 08753
Localities: Dover, Ocean, New Jersey
Dover Township, Ocean, New Jersey
Dover Twp, Ocean, New Jersey
Toms River, Ocean, New Jersey

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Re: Riccio - Nardi families

Postby vj » 05 Jun 2007, 00:59

another unconnected record, brother Michael
from 1910?

really need to see the 1920 & 1930 census records
for the Vincenzo Nardi family to possibly connect
these records to Josephine Riccio 8O


Florida Death Index, 1877-1998
Name: Michael Patrick Nardi
Death Date: 27 Dec 1974
County of Death: Brevard
State of Death: Florida
Age at Death: 70
Birth Date: 29 Sep 1904

SSDI
Michael NARDI
Birth Date: 29 Sep 1904
Death Date: Dec 1974
Social Security Number: xxx-xx-4303
State or Territory Where Number Was Issued: New Jersey
Death Residence
Localities ZIP Code: 32901
Localities: Melbourne, Brevard, Florida


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