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Looking for Fenili's

Postby gfenili » 11 Jul 2007, 22:29

I am looking for anyone with the last name of Fenili or who might know the origin of the last name. I am trying to retrace my roots and I don't have too much information. My great-grandfather was Alfred Fenili. He was the one who came over from Italy. His son, my grandfather, is Robert Donald Fenili and my father is Robert Donald Fenili Jr. Both my grandparents died when I was young so I don't have the ability to obtain any information. Please feel free to contact me here or by email: bigg9880@hotmail.com

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Re: Looking for Fenili's

Postby vj » 13 Jul 2007, 20:22

Hello and Welcome to the Forum :D !
We could use few more details :wink:
These may help.
Do these records belong to your family?
Thanks! vj

California Death Index, 1940-1997
Name: Daniele Fenili
Social Security #: 573-xx-xxxx
Birth Date: 25 Jul 1886
Birthplace: Italy
Death Date: 23 Sep 1970
Death Place: San Mateo

Name: Alfred F Fenili
Social Security #: 558-xx-xxxx
Birth Date: 28 May 1911
Birthplace: Italy
Death Date: 6 Dec 1967
Death Place: San Mateo
Mother's Maiden Name: Delgrand

California Birth Index, 1905-1995
Name: Bobby Alfred Fenili
Birth Date: 17 Jan 1935
Mother's Maiden Name: Cassasa
Birth County: San Francisco

California Death Index, 1940-1997
Name: Robert D Fenili
Social Security #: 547-xx-xxxx
Birth Date: 17 Jan 1935
Birthplace: California
Death Date: 22 Oct 1981
Death Place: Marin
Mother's Maiden Name: Cassassa

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Re: Looking for Fenili's

Postby vj » 13 Jul 2007, 20:32

Fenili Family
possibly related ship's manifests from Ellis Island

(click here) 1912 manifest page 1
page 2
Daniele Fenili & sister-in-law?
4 May 1912 SS La Provence Havre to NY
Lines 18-19
Daniele Fenili 25 (abt 1887)
- married
- last residence Capannori? (Lucca, Tuscany)
- relative in Capannori, M_ Mariana Fenili
- destination San Francisco, CA
- joining brother-in-law Angelo Mancini at 1411? Ocean View
- born in Capannori
sister-in-law? (or sister?) Angela Fenili 30

1920 manifest page 1
page 2
Daniele Fenili & family, including son Alfredo
17 Dec 1920 SS Giuseppe Verdi Genoa to NY
Lines 13-17
note: all in US before
Daniele Fenili 34 (abt 1886)
- farmer
- last residence Porcari (Lucca, Tuscany)
- in Porcari, uncle Bernardo Baiocchi
- destination San Francisco, CA
- in US 1912/1919
- joining sister Rosina Mancini at 20 Eveloe St.
- born in Porcari
wife Maria 27 (abt 1893)
- born in Porcari
son Alfredo 9 (abt 1911)
- born in Porcari
daughter Ines? 6 (abt 1914) born San Francisco
daughter Marianna 2 (abt 1918) born San Francisco

Note: there should be a manifest between 1912 and 1913
for Alfred & his mother

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Re: Looking for Fenili's

Postby vj » 13 Jul 2007, 21:29

Fenili Family
from ancestry.com ($ site)

possible 1917 WWI Draft Registration Card
Daniele Fenili 30
20 San Luis Ave
San Francisco, CA
born 29 Jun 1886
in Polcari (Porcari) Italy
Alien
Laborer for American Wine Co
Wife & two children

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Re: Looking for Fenili's

Postby vj » 13 Jul 2007, 22:21

Fenili Family
possible 1920 census
note: may be error, daughter Freda
may be son Alfred :wink:

Home in 1920:
2035 Ahlers Place?, rents
San Francisco Assembly District 31, San Francisco, California
head Dan Fenili 34 (abt 1886) IT
- immig 1913 Al
- Laborer, Factory
wife Mary Fenili 26 (abt 1894) IT
- immig 1913 Al
daughter? Freda Fenili 9 (abt 1911) IT
- immig 1913 Al
daughter Inez Fenili 6 (abt 1914) CA
daughter Marcin Fenili 2 (abt 1918) CA

possible 1930 census
Home in 1930:
252 ???, owns house $6,000
San Francisco, San Francisco, California
head Dan Fenela 42 (abt 1888) IT
- married age 20 (BET 1906-1908)
- immig 1913 Al
wife Mary Fenela 38 (abt 1892) IT
- immig 1913 Al
son Alfred Fenela 21 (abt 1909) IT
- Grass Cutter, Golf Course
- immig 1913 Al
daughter Mary Fenela 12 (abt 1918) CA

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Re: Looking for Fenili's

Postby vj » 13 Jul 2007, 22:52

Fenili Family
Alfred's sisters?

California Birth Index, 1905-1995
Name: Enise Fannelli
Birth Date: 10 Nov 1913
Mother's Maiden Name: Degrande
Birth County: San Francisco

Name: Mariana Fenili
Birth Date: 3 Apr 1918
Mother's Maiden Name: Velgrand
Birth County: San Francisco

helpful guide to online California records

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Re: Looking for Fenili's

Postby vj » 13 Jul 2007, 23:14

Fenili Family
'missing' manifest from 1912

Alfredo & his mother & grandmother?
- incorrect last name assigned to Alfredo on manifest page
- correct last name on Special Inquiry page

9 Nov 1912 La Lorraine Le Havre to NY
Special Inquiry page
Line 3
Maria Fenili & ch 19 (abt 1893)
- hospital notation
Line 4
Alfredo 1 (abt 1911)
Line 1
Marianna Fenili & gd ch 60 (abt 1852)
Line 2
Stillacari 11 (abt 1901)

Lines 6-9
Nov 1912 manifest
page 2
Line 6
Maria Fenili 19 (abt 1893)
- in hospital
- last residence Luccana??
- destination San Francisco
- joining husband? Angelo Mancini
(Angelo Mancini is prob brother-in-law)
- born in Luccana
Line 7
child Alfredo Manicini (Fenili) 1yr 5 mos (abt 1911)
- in hospital
- possible naturalization notation:
22-123875? 4/27?/42
- joining father
- born in Luccana
Line 8
mother Mariana Fenili 60 (abt 1852)
- joining son (prob Daniele Fenili)
- born in Luccana
Line 9
grandchild Adela Stillacari 11 (abt 1901)
- joining mother Angela Fenili (prob Mancini)
- born in Luccana

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Re: Looking for Fenili's

Postby gfenili » 17 Jul 2007, 18:01

Thank you VJ for helping me with this project. I'm sorry for not responding earlier. I moved this weekend and this is the first time I've been able to get on the internet. The problem is I don't have too much information because my grandfather, Robert Donald Fenili, passed away when I was really young and my Father doesn't really know much. Here is what I have been able to find out by myself.

Great Grandfather: Alfred Fenili born 5/28/1911 died 12/6/1967
Buried at Italian Cemetery in Colma, Ca.

Grandfather: Robert Donald Fenili born 1/17/33 died at the age of 48 sometime in 1981 birth year could be wrong. buried at a Catholic cemetery somewhere in Colma, Ca. as well.
His kids are:
Robert Donald Fenili Jr. born 12/20/56 – present, my father
Richard Fenili
Cindy Fenili (Kinney) married name
Pam Fenili (Collins) married name

My fathers kids are:
Gregory Robert Fenili born 1/8/80 - present, which is me
Robert Fenili born 1995 - present

I know its not much but hopefully it helps.

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Re: Looking for Fenili's

Postby vj » 17 Jul 2007, 18:26

Hey Greg :D ! (or Gregory?)
Thank you for getting back to us with more details.
Have you started organizing the records you already have?
If not, there is free genealogy software program on this page
from Family Search
After sorting thru the records you have, generally the next step is to
start obtaining vital records.
A couple of sites that may help:
helpful site for California online records
info on ordering California records
After you are sure you have the best information you can get from
your US records, you may want to start going after your
family's original Italian records.
OK so far :wink: ?
We're all here to help, just ask!
Valarie

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Re: Looking for Fenili's

Postby vj » 17 Jul 2007, 18:56

Assuming :wink: the majority of the records
found so far are pretty correct,

Descendants of Unknown Fenili
1 Fenili, Unknown d: Bef. Nov 1912 in Italy
. +Unknown, Marianna b: Abt. 1852 in Italy
....... 2 Fenili, Daniele b: 25 Jul 1886 in Porcari, Lucca, Tuscany, Italy
....... d: 23 Sep 1970 in , San Mateo, CA
.......... +Delgrand?, Maria b: Abt. 1893 in Porcari, Lucca, Tuscany, Italy
................ 3 Fenili, Alfred F b: 28 May 1911 in Porcari, Lucca, Tuscany Italy
................ d: 06 Dec 1967 in , San Mateo, CA
................... +Cassasa?, Unknown
......................... 4 Fenili, Robert Donald b: 17 Jan 1933 in , San Francisco
......................... d: 22 Oct 1981 in , Marin, CA
.................................. 5 Fenili, Robert Donald (private)
........................................... 6 Fenili, Gregory Robert (private)
........................................... 6 Fenili, Robert (private)
.................................. 5 Fenili, Richard (private)
.................................. 5 Fenili, Cindy (private)
.................................. 5 Fenili, Pam (private)
................ 3 Fenili, Enise b: 10 Nov 1913 in , San Francisco, CA
................ 3 Fenili, Mariana b: 03 Apr 1918 in , San Francisco, CA
....... 2 Fenili, Rosina

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Re: Looking for Fenili's

Postby Biff83 » 17 Jul 2007, 19:12

Hi Valarie,

Excellent summary.
Did you use a specific program to compile what you posted?

Greg(ory),

Website of Comune di Porcari

Lucca Map

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Re: Looking for Fenili's

Postby vj » 17 Jul 2007, 19:17

Hey Biff :D !
I create a temporary file in Family Tree Maker
After I enter the info, I pull up a Descendant Chart
I export the Descedant Chart to my desktop (in Adobe)
After it's on my desktop, I 'select all' & 'copy' onto a
plain ol' word document so I can copy it and post it.
Valarie

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Re: Looking for Fenili's

Postby gfenili » 17 Jul 2007, 21:04

vj wrote:Assuming :wink: the majority of the records
found so far are pretty correct,

Descendants of Unknown Fenili
1 Fenili, Unknown d: Bef. Nov 1912 in Italy
. +Unknown, Marianna b: Abt. 1852 in Italy
....... 2 Fenili, Daniele b: 25 Jul 1886 in Porcari, Lucca, Tuscany, Italy
....... d: 23 Sep 1970 in , San Mateo, CA
.......... +Delgrand?, Maria b: Abt. 1893 in Porcari, Lucca, Tuscany, Italy
................ 3 Fenili, Alfred F b: 28 May 1911 in Porcari, Lucca, Tuscany Italy
................ d: 06 Dec 1967 in , San Mateo, CA
................... +Cassasa?, Unknown
......................... 4 Fenili, Robert Donald b: 17 Jan 1933 in , San Francisco
......................... d: 22 Oct 1981 in , Marin, CA
.................................. 5 Fenili, Robert Donald (private)
........................................... 6 Fenili, Gregory Robert (private)
........................................... 6 Fenili, Robert (private)
.................................. 5 Fenili, Richard (private)
.................................. 5 Fenili, Cindy (private)
.................................. 5 Fenili, Pam (private)
................ 3 Fenili, Enise b: 10 Nov 1913 in , San Francisco, CA
................ 3 Fenili, Mariana b: 03 Apr 1918 in , San Francisco, CA
....... 2 Fenili, Rosina


That looks pretty close. I wonder who the unknown Fenili is. I really appreciate your help with this.

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Re: Looking for Fenili's

Postby vj » 17 Jul 2007, 21:09

That looks pretty close. I wonder who the unknown Fenili is.
I really appreciate your help with this


We're all happy to help!
If Marianna Fenili (b abt 1852) stayed in the US,
her husband's name may be on her
death record.

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Re: Looking for Fenili's

Postby gfenili » 17 Jul 2007, 21:35

So, is Daniele Fenili the first one who came over to America and then it filters down from there?


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