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need help finding manifest

Postby louis41 » 26 Aug 2007, 03:55

Hi All!
Trying to find great aunt's manifest.

Luisia Maria Ianelli born Berceto Italy 12 Aug 1854. Found in 1900 census in Phila. Enumeration dist 52, sheet no 5B, lines 91 & 92, under married name Perolli, husband Felicia born 1856. She came to US in 1889 according to census and it also indicates they had been married 18 years in 1900, so manifest should have been under married name. I tried Ancestry.com in every name combination I could think of without finding them. Will appreciate some help.

Thanks,

Louis

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Re: need help finding manifest

Postby pink67 » 26 Aug 2007, 10:36

1900 Census:

Name: Felicio Perolli
Home in 1900: Philadelphia Ward 2, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
Age: 43
Estimated birth year: abt 1857
Birthplace: Italy
Relationship to head-of-house: Head
Spouse's name: Louisa
Mother's name: Donata
Race: White
Occupation: View image
Immigration Year: 1889
Neighbors: View others on page

Name Age
Felicio Perolli 43
Louisa Perolli 45
Palma Perolli 9
Arcangelo Perolli 3
Luigi Perolli 2
Donata Perolli 69

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1910 Census

Name: Felix Perolli
Age in 1910: 53
Estimated birth year: abt 1857
Birthplace: Italy
Relation to Head of House: Head
Father's Birth Place: Italy
Mother's Birth Place: Italy
Spouse's name: Louisa
Home in 1910: Philadelphia Ward 2, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Gender: Male
Year of Immigration: 1888
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Felix Perolli 53
Louisa Perolli 55
Arcangelo Perolli 13
Louis Perolli 13
Alex Rancioni 25
Palma Rancioni 19

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But.... another page of 1910 Census

searching Donata Perolli (mother of Felice)

Name: Donata Perolli
Age in 1910: 80
Estimated birth year: abt 1830
Birthplace: Italy
Relation to Head of House: Mother
Father's Birth Place: Italy
Mother's Birth Place: Italy
Home in 1910: Philadelphia Ward 2, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
Marital Status: Widowed
Race: White
Gender: Female
Year of Immigration: 1890
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Felice Perolli 50
Louisa Perolli 56
Arcangelo Perolli 13
Luigi Perolli 11
Donata Perolli 80

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1920 Census:

Name: Phillip Pirollo
Home in 1920: Philadelphia Ward 26, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
Age: 60 years
Estimated birth year: abt 1860
Birthplace: Italy
Relation to Head of House: Head
Spouse's name: Louisa
Father's Birth Place: Italy
Mother's name: Donato
Mother's Birth Place: Italy
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Sex: Male
Home owned: Rent
Year of Immigration: 1890
Able to read: No
Able to Write: No
Image: 1155
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Phillip Pirollo 60
Louisa Pirollo 62
Lewis Pirollo 21
Donato Demeo 89

Note the surname of Felice's Mother: De Meo

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1930 census for Louise Pirollo (widow)

Name: Louise Pirollo
Home in 1930: Philadelphia, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
Age: 75
Estimated birth year: abt 1855
Birthplace: Italy
Relation to Head of House: Head
Race: White
Occupation:
Education:
Military Service:
Rent/home value:
Parents' birthplace: View image
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Louise Pirollo 75
Louis Pirollo 30
Rose Pirollo 29
Lillian Pirollo 5
Louis Pirollo 3 2/12

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Nothing about manifest of arrival... no Felice, No Louise but also no Donata Perollo/Perolli/De Meo

I'm going on with the search :wink:

Laura

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Re: need help finding manifest

Postby pink67 » 26 Aug 2007, 14:10

:cry: Hi Louis,

unfortunately my searches are useless.... no manifest found :cry:
But I've noticed that the family was:

Felice/Felix/Phillip Perolli/Pirolli born 1856 Italy
Louise wife born 1854 Italy
Palma daughter born 1891 Pennsylvania
Arcangelo son born 1897 Pennsylvania
Louis/Luigi/Lewis son born August 14, 1898 Pennsylvania (birth date from the WWI Draft card)

Felice's mother: Donata Perolli/Pirolli born De Meo in 1831 Italy

I think that the correct surname of Luisa was Janelli (founded immigrant from Berceto with this same surname)

Think that the surname of Palma's husband was not Rancioni as the manifest of 1910 Census but probably Rongione

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I've no experience with the origin and the distribution of the surnames in Italy but from a quickly look I can say that probably Janelli is from the North of Italy (found lots of immigrant from Berceto with this same surname. Parma Province) but surnames as Pirollo, Di Meo, Rongione are form the center/south.... I've found lots of Pirollo coming from Pozzilli (Isernia Province- Region Molise) or from Acquafondata, Casalcassinese (Frosinone Province- Region Lazio)
In this forum there are so many members with great experience (especially Suanj with question regarding italians surnames) so I hope that they help better than me!
Ciao!
Laura :D

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Re: need help finding manifest

Postby louis41 » 26 Aug 2007, 22:13

Thanks for trying. I already have all of the census reports as I subscribe to Ancestry.com and have searched there for months.

The correct spelling of her maiden name is Ianelli as that is my name and the name of my father, grand father, ggfather and gggrandfather and I have her birth certificate along with all birth certs for all of the males mentioned, so I am sure of the correct spelling. That doesn't help if she came over after she was married as it appears she did.

Our name is however often misspelled as Janelli, Jamelli, Yamelli, Yanelli, Fanelli or Iannelli and I have looked for all of those possibilities. As a mater of fact my ggrandfather had his name spelled Jamelli on his manifest and his wife who arrived the year after him, had her name spelled Yamelli.

I will keep searching for the manifest, but will appreciate anyone who can find it.

Thanks again,

Lou Ianelli

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Re: need help finding manifest

Postby peggymckee » 26 Aug 2007, 23:33

Hi Louis,

Have you tried the Steve Morse search pages?
http://stevemorse.org/index.html

You need a paid subscription to ancestry.com but you said you have one.

BTW, my GM, though married & with a 6 year old child, travelled under her maiden name. I eventually found her on the ship manifest by searching for birthplace, Sta*, since I knew her exact date of birth. Her maiden name was misspelled and her first name was illegible (to the transcriber) though it was clear on the manifest if you already knew what it was.

Good luck, Peg
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Re: need help finding manifest

Postby wldspirit » 27 Aug 2007, 12:48

Rarely will you find a woman listed on the manifest with their married name......Italian women keep their surnames in Italy and are found under the maiden name. Once in America they then adopt the American custom of taking their husbands surname.
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