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SICA family

Postby bull1982 » 17 Sep 2007, 22:40

Hi friends!
Could someone do a Census (1920 or 1930) look up for me?
Thank you so much!!!

SICA ANGELA arrived at New York in 1910 (age 28,born approx in 1882)

SICA DOMENICO arrived at New York in 1908 (age 17,born approx in 1891)

SICA VINCENZO arrived at New York in 1913 (age 28,born approx in 1878)
wife SICA CLEMENTINA (age 38,born approx in 1875)
daughter SICA BIANCA (age 11,born approx in 1902)

ANGELA, DOMENICO and VINCENZO were sons of GIOVANNI SICA and all born in Somma Vesuviana,Naples. Giovanni didn't left.

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Re: SICA family

Postby misbris » 17 Sep 2007, 23:26

Do you have the Ellis Island manifests for these people? If not I will post them for you.

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Re: SICA family

Postby bull1982 » 18 Sep 2007, 08:39

I got these infos from Ellis indeed...
Maybe Census shows where they were living at the time or if Domenico or Angela got married and had sons.

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Re: SICA family

Postby pink67 » 18 Sep 2007, 11:00

1920 Census for Blanche Sica (Bianca?) daughter of Vincenzo... at that time she was living as a Niece with Dominic Sica... (brother of Vincenzo?)

1920 United States Federal Census
about Blanche Sica
Name: Blanche Sica
Home in 1920: Manhattan Assembly District 2, New York, New York
Age: 17 years
Estimated birth year: abt 1903
Birthplace: Italy
Relation to Head of House: Niece
Father's Birth Place: Italy
Mother's Birth Place: Italy
Marital Status: Single
Race: White
Sex: Female
Year of Immigration: 1913
Able to read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes
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Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Dominic Sica 28
Angiolina Buono 39
Blanche Sica 17
Joseph Buono 8
Madgie Buono 3

Line 81 for Bianca

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now searching for the others members.....
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Re: SICA family

Postby pink67 » 18 Sep 2007, 12:08

Ciao bull1982
Vedo che sei in Italia così provo a scriverti in italiano... :D
solo un'appunto....
Da dove hai ricavato l'età di Vincenzo Sica? Io ho trovato il manifesto di sbarco del 1913 ma la sua età all'epoca era 55 anni e non 28, perciò risulta nato all'incirca nel 1858.....
E' giusto??
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Re: SICA family

Postby pink67 » 18 Sep 2007, 12:45

Ho guardato meglio il 1920 Census e la famiglia risulta così composta:

Sica Dominic head 28 anni single arrivato nel 1909
Buono Angiolina sister 39 anni vedova arrivata nel 1910
Sica Blanche Niece 17 anni single arrivata nel 1913
Buono Joseph Nephew 8 anni nato nel Connecticut
Buono Maggie Niece 3 anni nata nel New Jersey


Perciò abbiamo trovato sia Domenico che Angela (che era già vedova) e i figli di Angela, Joseph e Maggie nati in America...

Il fatto che anche Bianca abitasse con gli zii fa presumere che i suoi genitori non ci fossero piu'.....
Continuo la ricerca...
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Re: SICA family

Postby bull1982 » 18 Sep 2007, 13:49

Sei forte Laura!
Scusa se non rispondo tempestivamente...

Tutto sembra tornare...mi è stato detto che Domenico, Angela (Angiolina Buono) e Vincenzo erano fratelli.
E' plausibile se non sicuro che sia proprio Bianca (figlia di Vincenzo e Clementina) la Blanche che vive con Domenico.

Sono propenso a credere che l'età di Vincenzo fosse 35 (non 28 come mi ho scritto nel primo mex) non 55 come riporta il Manifest. I Sica italiani che mi hanno contattato lo confermano.
Credo anch'io che Blanche sia rimasta orfana vista l'età dei genitori.
Ora la ricerca si decentra sui Buono o su Domenico Sica nel caso risulti vivo e con famiglia dal Censimento del 30.

PS:vedo che uno dei figli di Angioline si chiama Joseph. Sono in possesso di una foto del diploma high school di un certo Giuseppe. Sto attendendo risposta in merito al suo cognome.
Se fosse Sica sinifica che Domenico ha avuto figli altrimenti potrebbe trattarsi di Joseph Buono.

grazie, ci sentiamo!

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Re: SICA family

Postby bull1982 » 20 Sep 2007, 10:06

Hi folks!

I've been told that BLANCHE (Bianca) SICA (17 yrs old in 1920) probably got married and had a daughter called Domenica.
May someone confirm that on 1930 Census?

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Re: SICA family

Postby pink67 » 21 Sep 2007, 15:24

Ciao Bull....

From 1920 Census the family was living in Manhattan, Cornelia Street number 30...
I checked Cornelia Street in 1930 Census, found an interesting record...

In 1930 at the 30 of Cornelia Street (Manhattan) were living:

Puna Angelina - Head - Widow - age 47 - born in Italy
" " Joseph - Son - Single - age 19 - born in Connecticut
" " Domenica - Single - Daughter - age 13 - born in New Jersey

Don't you think It's the same family of 1920 Census but with other spelling of the surname?? (Puna instead of Buono?)
Joseph in 1920 is listed as born in Connecticut and the daughter in 1920 was Madgie/Maggie born in New Jersey..... Maybe Maggie can be the americanized version of Domenica....

Line 71 of the manifest:

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What you think about this?



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Re: SICA family

Postby bull1982 » 21 Sep 2007, 16:34

Wow, it's definetively the same family.

A few questions...
Which surname should we use to reach Giuseppe (Domenica/Maggie's son)?
How could we know if Dominic Sica and his niece Blanche got married or died whitin the 10 yrs?

Thank you, Laura

PS:just practicing my english

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Re: SICA family

Postby pink67 » 21 Sep 2007, 16:44

bull1982 wrote:PS:just practicing my english


Stessa cosa anche per me...... :wink:

Just to resume:

Josep/Giuseppe Buono/Puna was Angelina's son
Domenica/Maggie/Madgie Buono/Puna was Angelina's daughter

I don't know how to find Blanche because if she was married in 1930 she is listed under the last name of her husband....
In 1930 Census I didn't find trace about Blanche Sica, so it's probably she was married......
Are you sure that Blanche had a daughter named Domenica or it's possible that Domenica was only Angelina's daughter?
Do you have others elements???
Laura

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Re: SICA family

Postby pink67 » 21 Sep 2007, 17:11

Hi,

Checking the http://www.italiangen.org/databaselist.stm
I found these other interesting records....

From New York City Brides Records Search:

Sica Bianca date of marriage: Aug 22 1927
Certificate number: 26485
Manhattan S200

Maybe you can request the certificate..... :)

From the same site:

NYC death index:
Sica Vincenzo 59 y Dec 7 1918 41756 Manhattan S200

This man was born in 1859, do you think can be Bianca's father?


Laura

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Re: SICA family

Postby bull1982 » 22 Sep 2007, 10:43

Cool!

I did a backward research for Bianca Sica marriage record:

Lagrotteria Salvatore
Date:Aug 22, 1927
Manhattan
Certificate Number 26485

Do you think he's her husband?
Maybe we could check for surname Lagrotteria on Census 1930.

Yes, Vincenzo was Bianca's father.

Thank you!

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Re: SICA family

Postby pink67 » 26 Sep 2007, 06:48

Ciao Bull!!

Unfortunately my search about Lagrotteria in 1930 Census don't give good result, so I want to make you see this SSDI number:

Name: Joseph Buono
SSN: 085-03-8055
Last Residence: 10301 Staten Island, Richmond, New York, United States of America
Born: 16 May 1912
Died: 6 Oct 1997
State (Year) SSN issued: New York (Before 1951 )

Besides, I saw that when Domenico Sica arrives in USA (Dec 24, 1908) he was travelling with Carmine Buono , age 27, they were going to Coney Island... So it's probably that his sister Angela was married with someone of this family Buono (no with Carmine, he was married with Quadrino Giuseppina, if I see well) and later in 1930 Census the last name was crippled in Puna.....

:? Laura

Did you found something in your papers about Joseph.... (date of birth??)

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Re: SICA family

Postby pink67 » 26 Sep 2007, 08:30

I need help....

If this is the arrival manifest of Angela Sica (sept. 16, 1910) age 27, single, from Somma Vesuviana, mother's last name Allocca, and if I am right (my eyes are very tired...) she was going in New Haven Connecticut to meet her brother in law.....
Two things:
1) If this is the right record of Angela and she was single, the fact she had a brother in law seems that she had another married sister....
2) I think it's the right record because the first son Joseph was born in Connecticut...

Really I can't understand the name of the brother in law and most important the name of the street.....
If someone can decipher these names I can look the 1910 census....
The census is dated April 1910 but maybe I can find the right name of her husband family so we can say that Joseph is Buono or Puna....

Thank you!!!

Manifest page 1 line 26

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Manifest page 2 line 26

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