Virgilio Vercellone (Cuneo) Date & Place of Birth

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Virgilio Vercellone (Cuneo) Date & Place of Birth

Postby NJMVercellone » 15 Oct 2007, 02:11

Hi, my name is Nathalie and I'm a little confused.
I'm looking for information about my relative Virgilio Vercellone, I have a bolivian document that says he was born in Cuneo (Torino) on Sept 22 of 1.879, however today I realized that in this website: www.familysearch.or they have different information about this date (the death and marriage information matches)

My document: Sep 22, 1879 - Cuneo, Torino
Family Search: Apr 28, 1881 - Piemonte Region

Is this website trustable? Which information should I use? how can I validate the information?
Can anybody help me please???
Thanks
Nathalie

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Re: Virgilio Vercellone (Cuneo) Date & Place of Birth

Postby misbris » 21 Oct 2007, 17:05

The website is a good one. The information was submitted by a member of the Mormon Church. It may not be completely correct if the person had wrong dates. Torino is in the Piedmont region of Italy. The only was to find out for sure is to write to Italy.

Someone here can give you the right address.

Here are all the Vercellones who still live in Cuneo.
http://www.paginebianche.it/execute.cgi ... o&ind=&nc=

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Re: Virgilio Vercellone (Cuneo) Date & Place of Birth

Postby pink67 » 21 Oct 2007, 17:18

Ciao!
This is from the Comune of Cuneo's site:

CIVIL STATE DATA COMMUNICATION
Following a lot of requests coming from italian and foreign citizen, the Comune di Cuneo’s Settore Elaborazione Dati and Settore Servizi Demografici provided to create an e-mail address called : statocivile@comune.cuneo.it. (no spaces...)

Who is interested to receive information related to births, weddings and death events happened in the area of the Cuneo municipality since 1866 can send to this address their requests, which will be examined by Stato Civile Service.

Every act owned by this office and allowed to send, respecting current laws, will be sent to the requesters by ordinary mail.

Every other communication will be sent by e-mail.

Settore Elaborazione Dati Manager
Dr.Pier Angelo Mariani
mariani@comune.cuneo.it

Settore Servizi Demografici Manager
Dr.Pietro Tassone


Laura :)

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Postby misbris » 21 Oct 2007, 17:34

Thanks Laura,

I knew someone would have this info.

Mary Jo

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Postby BillieDeKid » 21 Oct 2007, 17:40

Nathalie -

Is this Virgilio's wife and children? If so, I would order the LDS microfilms.

Cuneo is a province in the Piemonte region.

Virgilio Vercellone
Birth: 28 APR 1881 , Piemonte Region, Italy
Christening:
Marriage: 04 APR 1909 , Jujuy, Argentina
Death: 21 AUG 1956 , La Paz, Bolivia
Burial:

Wife
Carmen Portal
Birth: 1891 , Jujuy, Argentina
Christening:
Marriage: 04 APR 1909 , Jujuy, Argentina
Death: 23 JUN 1964 , La Paz, Bolivia
Burial:

Children

1. Aida Vercellone - Female
Birth: 1913 , Jujuy, Argentina
Christening:
Death: 1969 , La Paz, Bolivia
Burial:

2. Laura Vercellone - Female
Birth: 11 JUN 1915 , Jujuy, Argentina
Christening:
Death: 25 JAN 1992 , Santa Cruz, Bolivia
Burial:

3. Catalina Vercellone - Female
Birth: 1918 , Oruro, Bolivia
Christening:
Death: 29 NOV 1987 , Santa Cruz, Bolivia
Burial:

Here is the LDS link for the church records
Church records for batism's
http://www.familysearch.org/eng/Library ... umns=*,0,0

The microfilms are of the actual documentation that the church(s) had. So I think I would take a look at the film.

Elizabeth

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Postby NJMVercellone » 22 Oct 2007, 11:35

Thank you all!!!
Actually I ask about the information contained in Familysearch because I alredy looked for it in the books of Jujuy and they didn´t find anything..strange!
Also I wrote to the office Laura suggests, they have 20 days to find the document, let´s hope so!
I don`t know what else should I do to find the marriage certificate!!!!! do you think that maybe if I have everything they will make me trouble if I don´t have the marriage certificate???
Nathalie

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Re: Virgilio Vercellone (Cuneo) Date & Place of Birth

Postby NJMVercellone » 22 Oct 2007, 11:44

Elizabeth, that Virgilio you found is the person I´m looking for! (his certificates)
Would you be sooooooo kind to help me????? It would be incredible!
I will be sooo looking forward to hear news from you!
I need three certificates from the information you have, will put them in order of priority:
1. Certificate of marriage
2. Certificate of birth
3. Certificate of death (that I hope I can get in my country)
Kind regards!
Nathalie

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Postby BillieDeKid » 22 Oct 2007, 13:42

Nathalie,

The information in my first post was from the LDS website. I personally do not have any documents. That's why I provided the link to order the microfilm for region of Piemonte church records in my first post.

The information was provided by an LDS church memeber through the IGI project.

Here is some additional information from the LDS site.

Virgilio Vercellone parents:

Father - Antonio Vercellone
Mother - Maria Ysaya

There is no information on the person that submitted the information. I would order the church films.

Best of luck
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Postby BillieDeKid » 22 Oct 2007, 13:51

Nathalie,

About a year ago someone else was on this site looking for the same information as you. Here are the links to their threads. This person is also from Bolivia, maybe you know them. Please read the threads.

http://italiangenealogy.tardio.com/Foru ... llone.html

http://italiangenealogy.tardio.com/Foru ... llone.html

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Postby NJMVercellone » 22 Oct 2007, 14:13

Thanks Elizabeth!
I really didn´t understand the information of that website (maybe it´s because of my english), can you plese tell me how I can order the church films?
Thanks!
(I know Daniel Oporto, we are togheter in this..thanks again)
Regards,
Nathalie

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Postby BillieDeKid » 22 Oct 2007, 15:07

Hi Nathalie,

First find a Family History Center near you. You can only view the films at a center. Here is the link. Put your country name in and hit search. It should give you an address and phone number for a center near you.

http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Library ... et_fhc.asp

Next either go in and order the film. Here is the link again for the film you need, write down the information and the film number.

http://www.familysearch.org/eng/Library ... cesi+di+++

Once you open this link, scroll thru to find the correct film you need. Scroll all the way to the bottom and you will see [next films], select that to take you to the next page of films. I believe there are 5 pages of films you will have to look at.

If you need any more help let me know.

Elizabeth

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Postby misbris » 22 Oct 2007, 16:52

The actual birth certificate has to come from the comune of Cuneo. I think you have enough information for them to trace Virgilio. I would write to them as soon as possible. The Marriage certificate has to come from Jujuy, Argentina, that is where they were married. You also have that date.

You should still order the film. It will come from Salt Lake City, Utah. It took two weeks for me to get one in the US and it cost $5.50. I don't know how long it will take to send to Bolivia or the cost, but they will tell you that over the phone.

Good Luck

Mary Jo

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Re: Virgilio Vercellone (Cuneo) Date & Place of Birth

Postby NJMVercellone » 22 Oct 2007, 17:49

Thanks Elizabeth and Mary..
I have already contacted the Stato Civile in Cuneo (1 week ago) and they are looking for the certificate (in about 15 days I hope to have news from them).
I already tried to find the marriage certificate in Jujuy but they couldn´t find it, they searched in two cities because Jujuy is a province (the capital and the city where aparently most of his wif´es relative are from)..So that is the reason I want to look at the films, maybe to have another clue to get that marriage certificate..I will go today to the Church and let´s see if I have luck.
Thanks a lot ladies!!!
And don't forget please..any help is useful!
Kind Regards,
Nathalie


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