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need to affirm back four generations

Postby nfig1 » 13 Dec 2007, 12:44

Hello. I need to verify that the individual I think is my great-great-grandfather is indeed the correct person. My grandfather's name is Frank Louis Figone, Sr., born in California around 1911. (After this I am unclear since I never knew my great-grandparents on my dad's side.) I believe his father's name is Louis Figone, born Louis Figoni in California in 1888. I believe the original paternal ancenstor from Italy, Frank Figoni, was born in 1860 and arrived in the USA in 1884. Thank you.

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Re: need to affirm back four generations

Postby wldspirit » 13 Dec 2007, 13:53

The best confirmation is by obtaining copies of original documents....
death, marriage and birth records should be sent for. Starting with your grandfather and working backwards one generation at a time.

Can you provide further details on the names provided? Spouses name?
Childrens names and ages? What records have you obtained so far?

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Re: need to affirm back four generations

Postby Poipuo4 » 13 Dec 2007, 13:54

Can you confirm the name of your great grandparents by acquiring your grandfather's birth and death certificates? Have you looked up their manifests from points of entry to determine their town of origin in Italy? It is probably too early for Ellis Island, but Castle Garden has ealier manifests on line. www.castlegarden.org. You can also try www.ancestry.com if you have a subscription. Start with the information you can confirm and work your way backwards. Start with American records first.

Here is a Francois Fignoni from Castle Garden:
FRANCOIS FIGONI Occupation MUSICIAN
Age 36
Sex M
Literacy U
Arrived 20 Aug 1888
Origin ITALY
Port HAVRE
Last Residence
Destination 7328
Plan Unknown
Ship LA CHAMPAGNE
Passage Unknown
COMPARATIVE DATA This feature is currently under construction
http://www.celenzaheritage.com

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Re: need to affirm back four generations

Postby pink67 » 13 Dec 2007, 14:12

From Ancestry.com :

Name: Francisca Figone
Arrival Date: 30 Mar 1882
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1861
Age: 21
Gender: Male
Port of Departure: Le Havre, France
Destination: United States of America
Place of Origin: Italy
Ethnicity/Race­/Nationality: Italian
Ship Name: Canada
Search Ship Database: Search the Canada in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Port of Arrival: New York
Line: 44
Microfilm Serial: M237
Microfilm Roll: M237_448
List Number: 371
Port Arrival State: New York
Port Arrival Country: United State

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However the Figone surname is common in my region especially in La Spezia and Genoa Province
LIGURIA REGION:
Comuni nei quali è presente il cognome "figone" : 18 su 235.


63,36 Varese Ligure La Spezia
35,85 Casarza Ligure Genova
34,56 Chiavari Genova
29,25 Genova Genova
21,30 Lavagna Genova
13,50 Sestri Levante Genova
5,82 Sesta Godano La Spezia
4,20 Castiglione Chiavarese Genova
3,90 Borzonasca Genova
3,84 Carro La Spezia
2,28 Imperia Imperia
2,26 La Spezia La Spezia
2,19 San Remo Imperia
2,15 Savona Savona
2,07 Rapallo Genova
1,84 Rezzoaglio Genova
1,83 Giusvalla Savona
1,77 Maissana La Spezia

There are Figone's in Piedmont region (but less than in Liguria)

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Re: need to affirm back four generations

Postby wldspirit » 13 Dec 2007, 14:32

Can you confirm this birth record? List mother's maiden name...

California Birth Index, 1905-1995
about Frank L Figone
Name: Frank L Figone
Birth Date: 31 Oct 1910
Gender: Male
Mother's Maiden Name: Rizzo
Birth County: Alameda

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Re: need to affirm back four generations

Postby nfig1 » 13 Dec 2007, 18:51

Rizzo, yes that sounds very familier. I would say this is indeed my grandfather. So, we are on the right track. :) Regarding the "Figone" name, the ancestry is Genoa by all accounts, although there seems to have been a spelling change. Intially, my great-great-grandfather spelled it "Figoni". I have heard from relatives that the family had changed the spelling at some point, probably before the birth of my grandfather. Is there a true "Figone" line in Italy, or is it just an American spelling change? If not, what is the difference between "Figone" and "Figoni"? My Italian friends have teased me on more than one occasion about "Figone" having some silly meaning in Italian.

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Re: need to affirm back four generations

Postby vj » 14 Dec 2007, 23:33

For reference:
Is this a census record for your family?

1900 census
Home in 1900:
1246 62nd Avenue
Oakland, Alameda, California
Head Frank Figoni 40 (Jan 1860)
- married 14 yrs (abt 1886)
Note: married in CA?
- immig 1884, in US 16 yrs, Pa (filed 1st papers)
Note no naturalization record found on footnote.com
Wife Mary Figoni 31 (May 1869)
- 8 children born, 5 children living
- immig 1885, in US 15yrs
Note: children all born in CA
Daughter Virginia Figoni 14 (May 1886)
Son Louis Figoni 11 (Jun 1888)
Son Tony Figoni 7 (Dec 1892)
Son Frank Figoni 6 (Sep 1893)
Son Albert Figoni 2 (Aug 1897)
boarder Jovanio Besitio 30

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Re: need to affirm back four generations

Postby vj » 15 Dec 2007, 00:29

With Frank's father born in 1823, son Louis
living next door

1910 census
Home in 1910:
1246 62nd Street, owns house
Oakland Ward 1, Alameda, California
Head Frank Figone 52 (abt 1858)
- married 23 yrs (abt 1887)
- immig 1883?, Na
Wife Marie Figone 43 (abt 1867)
- 12 children born, 7 children living
- immig 1886?
Daughter Virginia Figone 22 (abt 1888)
Son Tony Figone 18 (abt 1892)
Son Frankie Figone 15 (abt 1895)
Son Albert Figone 11 (abt 1899)
Daughter Elvera Figone 9 (abt 1901)
Son Victor Figone 4 (abt 1906)
Father Frank Figone Sr 87 (abt 1823)
- widower
- immig 1908 Al
---

Edit: added
Frank & Marie's son Victor?
California Birth Index, 1905-1995
Name: Vittorio G Figone
Birth Date: 21 Jul 1905
Gender: Male
Mother's Maiden Name: Devincen
Birth County: Alameda
---

also on 1910 census page
1244 62nd Street
Head Louis Figone 22 (abt 1888)
- married 0 yrs (abt 1910)
Wife Mary Figone 17 (abt 1893)
edit: added
- immig 1907

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Re: need to affirm back four generations

Postby vj » 15 Dec 2007, 00:38

1908 manifest Frank Figone & his father

1908 manifest
page 2
24 Oct 1908 SS Regina D’Italia, Genova to NY
Lines 8 & 9
Francesco Figone 49 (abt 1859)
- married
- American citizen
- in Varese Ligure, sister Caterina
- destination SF, CA
- in US 1880 in SF
- joining wife Maddalena at 1264 62nd St, Oakland
- born in Genoa, Varese Ligure (La Spezia, Liguria)
Note: Varese Ligure is abt 50 km east of Genoa

(Father) Francesco Figone 73 (abt 1835)
- widower
- last residence Varese Ligure
- in Varese Ligure, daughter Caterina
- destination SF CA
- in US 3yrs 1887 in SF
- joining son Francesco at 1264 62nd St, Oakland
- born in Genoa, Varese Ligure

edit: added
as Biff points out (next post) Varese Ligure confirms Laura's :D
suggestion (above)

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Re: need to affirm back four generations

Postby Biff83 » 15 Dec 2007, 01:07

Superb work, Valarie!

Noticed there was a Rizzo family living at the same address as Louis Figone in the 1910 census.

Also the surname Figone is very common in Varese Ligure.
10 most common surnames in Varese Ligure

Doing a search on Pagine Bianche yielded 30 Figone listings and 0 Figoni listings.

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Re: need to affirm back four generations

Postby vj » 15 Dec 2007, 01:08

WWI Draft Registration Cards for Frank Figoni/e’s sons?

1917 WWI card
Louis Figone 28
Stege, Contra Costa, CA
23 Jun 1888 in SF
Nursery man in Stege

1917 WWI card
Antone Figone 25
Berkeley, Contra Costa, CA
19 Dec 1891 in Oakland
Nursery man in Stege

1918 WWI card
Albert John Figone 20
1216 62nd Oakland (with father Frank)
16 Aug 1898
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California Death Index, 1940-1997
Name: Anthony F Figone
Social Security #: 55512xxxx
Birth Date: 19 Dec 1892
Birthplace: California
Death Date: 15 Jun 1964
Death Place: Alameda
Mother's Maiden Name: Devincen

edit: added
83 folks currently in Varese Ligure (La Spezia)
with the name De Vincenzi


Hey Biff :D !
Missed the Rizzo's!
Can't find Frank's naturalization paperwork
on footnote.
Odd, that databes is 98% complete
edit: added
(only So Cal naturalizations...)
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Re: need to affirm back four generations

Postby vj » 15 Dec 2007, 01:42

RIZZO

As Biff pointed out, the possibly related Rizzo family
from the 1910 Figone census and wldspirit's birth record
find :D
- same address as Louis & Mary Figone
Mary Figone’s family (same immigration year)?

edit: added link to 1910 census from above
1910 census
Home in 1910:
1244 62nd St, rents house
Oakland Ward 1, Alameda, California
head Pietre Rizzo 44 (abt 1866) IT
- married 1 yrs (abt 1893) IT
- immig 1905 Al
wife Sylva Rizzo 35 (abt 1875) IT
- 5 children born, 5 children living
- immig 1907
son Joseph Rizzo 18 (abt 1892) IT
- immig 1907
daughter Josephine Rizzo 9 (abt 1901) IT
- immig 1907
son John Rizzo 7 (abt 1903) IT
- immig 1907
daughter Antonette Rizzo 2/12 (abt 1909) CA

possible maiden name?
California Birth Index, 1905-1995
Name: Antoinet V Rizzo
Birth Date: 2 Aug 1909
Gender: Female
Mother's Maiden Name: Villa
Birth County: Alameda

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Re: need to affirm back four generations

Postby vj » 15 Dec 2007, 01:50

Rizzo/Villa

Possibly related manifest
Silvia Villa and 4 children

17 Mar 1907 SS Virginia Genoa to NY
1907 manifest
- all born in Pietra Ligure (Savona, Liguria)
Note: Pietra Ligure is located abt 60 km sw of Genoa

Silvia Villa 30 (abt 1887)
- last residence Ceriana (Imperia, Liguria)
- destination SF, CA
- joining husband/father Pietro Rizzo at 4661 Telegraph, Oakland
Daughter Maria 9 (abt 1898)
Son Giuseppe 8 (abt 1899)
Daughter Giuseppina 4 (abt 1903)
Son Giovanni 2 (abt 1905)
---

Note:
daughter Maria appears to be several years younger than the
Mary Figone on the 1910 census...
But, there may be an error on the manifest
- son/brother? Joseph/Giuseppe's age is off
also compared to the 1910 census


Possible record for brother Giuseppe Rizzo
1917 WWI Draft Registration Card
Joseph Rizzo 21
1202 59th Oakland
2 May 1896 in Genoa

California Death Index, 1940-1997
Name: Joseph L Rizzo
Social Security #: 56509xxxx
Birth Date: 2 May 1896
Birthplace: Other Country
Death Date: 23 Jan 1958
Death Place: Alameda
Mother's Maiden Name: Villa
FATHER'S SURNAME: Pietro

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Re: need to affirm back four generations

Postby Cathynap » 15 Dec 2007, 02:56

nfig1 wrote:Hello. I need to verify that the individual I think is my great-great-grandfather is indeed the correct person. My grandfather's name is Frank Louis Figone, Sr., born in California around 1911. (After this I am unclear since I never knew my great-grandparents on my dad's side.) I believe his father's name is Louis Figone, born Louis Figoni in California in 1888. I believe the original paternal ancenstor from Italy, Frank Figoni, was born in 1860 and arrived in the USA in 1884. Thank you.

The real name may be Zingone (Zingoni in Argentina). I have found a couple of Zingone surnames that were listed on the Ellis Island database as Fingone.

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Re: need to affirm back four generations

Postby vj » 15 Dec 2007, 03:02

Figone

Note: quite a few Figone’s in SF in 1890 :D
LANGLEY'S 1890 SAN FRANCISCO CITY DIRECTORY

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