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vj wrote:suanj,
it was easy after you :D found the critical link!
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I totally agree with you one that one, Valerie! :D
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De Marinis family

possible 1920 census
page 2
Home in 1920:
400 11th Street
Manhattan Assembly District 8, New York, New York
head Henry Demmarenio (DeMarinis) 63 (abt 1857) IT
- imig 1890, Al
wife Louise Demmarenio 43 (abt 1867) IT
- immig 1895, Al
son Almerindo Demmarenio 19 (abt 1901) NY
daughter Theresa Demmarenio 17 (abt 1903) NY
daughter Mildred Demmarenio 15 (abt 1905) NY
son Alphonso Demmarenio 13 (abt 1907) NY
daughter Geneneve Demmarenio 11 (abt 1909) NY
son Anthony Demmarenio 9 (abt 1911) NY

And
Head Pasquale Porrazzo 38 (abt 1892)
- widower??
- immig 1892, Al
Son Otto Porrazzo 13 (abt 1907) NY
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Re: Help with the Diorio name.

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vj wrote:from suanj:
in travel with Teresa DE MARINIS born in New York 10 sept 1902
and with Maria PARRAZZO age 71, I believe mother of Teresa...
as you can read the right italian spelling of surname is DI IORIO


400 East 11th Street, Manhattan

1930 census
De Marinis family and Maria Parrazzo from
Line 1 on the manifest suanj :D found

Edit: added details
Perhaps mother & grandmother of Teresa as suanj suggested?
Home in 1930:
400 East 11th Street
Manhattan, New York, New York
Head Louise Demarinis 54 IT (abt 1876)
- widow
- married age 22 (abt 1898)
- immig 1893, Pa
Son Alfred Demarinis 30 NY (abt 1900)
- married
Daughter Mildred Demarinis 26 NY (abt 1904
Son Alfonso Demarinis 24 NY (abt 1906)
Daughter Genevieve Demarinis 22 NY (abt 1908)
Son Anthony Demarinis 21 NY (abt 1909)
Mother Mary Porrazzo 75 IT (abt 1855)
- widow
- immig 1900, Al
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

This is the correct De Marinis family!!!

Alfonso was my Dad's uncle! I knew him. He died in 1992.

I also remember aunt Mildred and aunt Genevieve!!!

My God, I owe you all so much.

Slowly, the puzzle gets filled!

Grazie Mille!
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Giovanni,
As suanj :D suggested earlier
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These may help locate New York City records:
Dr Steve Morse One Step Search Pages for New York
NY Naturalization
NYC Birth Records 1891-1902requires ancestry.com subscription
NYC Groom Index 1864-1936
NYC Bride Index ????-1937
NYC Death Records 1891-1948
New York Cemeteries (Mts Hebron, Carmel & Zion)

Ordering NYC Vital Records
New York City Archives
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vj wrote:De Marinis family

possible 1920 census
page 2
Home in 1920:
400 11th Street
Manhattan Assembly District 8, New York, New York
head Henry Demmarenio (DeMarinis) 63 (abt 1857) IT
- imig 1890, Al
wife Louise Demmarenio 43 (abt 1867) IT
- immig 1895, Al
son Almerindo Demmarenio 19 (abt 1901) NY
daughter Theresa Demmarenio 17 (abt 1903) NY
daughter Mildred Demmarenio 15 (abt 1905) NY
son Alphonso Demmarenio 13 (abt 1907) NY
daughter Geneneve Demmarenio 11 (abt 1909) NY
son Anthony Demmarenio 9 (abt 1911) NY

And
Head Pasquale Porrazzo 38 (abt 1892)
- widower??
- immig 1892, Al
Son Otto Porrazzo 13 (abt 1907) NY

Well it's clearly the same family.

BUT... why "Demmarenio" as the family name??

Any ideas?
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1900 United States Federal Census
about Henry Demarinis
Name: Henry Demarinis
Home in 1900: Manhattan, New York, New York
Age: 43
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1857
Birthplace: Italy
Relationship to head-of-house: Head
Spouse's Name: Louise
Race: White
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Household Members: Name Age
Henry Demarinis 43
Louise Demarinis 24
Tony Porrazzo 50

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Giovanni777 wrote:
vj wrote:De Marinis family

possible 1920 census
page 2
Home in 1920:
400 11th Street
Manhattan Assembly District 8, New York, New York
head Henry Demmarenio (DeMarinis) 63 (abt 1857) IT
- imig 1890, Al
wife Louise Demmarenio 43 (abt 1867) IT
- immig 1895, Al
son Almerindo Demmarenio 19 (abt 1901) NY
daughter Theresa Demmarenio 17 (abt 1903) NY
daughter Mildred Demmarenio 15 (abt 1905) NY
son Alphonso Demmarenio 13 (abt 1907) NY
daughter Geneneve Demmarenio 11 (abt 1909) NY
son Anthony Demmarenio 9 (abt 1911) NY

And
Head Pasquale Porrazzo 38 (abt 1892)
- widower??
- immig 1892, Al
Son Otto Porrazzo 13 (abt 1907) NY

Well it's clearly the same family.

BUT... why "Demmarenio" as the family name??

Any ideas?
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marriage record of Enrico de Marinis and Porrazzo Luisa
Demarinis Enrico Jun 17 1899 Manhattan 10047
Parazzo Luisa Jun 17 1899 10047 Manhattan
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Note: spelling and dates depended upon the knowledge/memory
of the person giving the census enumerator the information and
sometimes their ability to make themselves understood

DeMarinis/Parrazzo families

possible 1910 census
page 2
Home in 1910:
400 11th Street
Manhattan Ward 17, New York, New York

Edit: details added
Head Henry B'Marine (DeMarinis) 53 IT
- married 11 yrs (abt 1899)
- immig 1886, Pa (filed 1st papers)
- tailor
Wife Louise B'Marine 33 IT
- 7 children born, 6 children living
- immig 1891
Son Almarindo B'Marinis 10 NY
Daughter Tessie B'Marinis 8 NY
Daughter Mildred B'Marinis 7 NY
Son Alphonse B'Marinis 4 NY
Daughter Geromive B'Marinis 2 NY
Son Tony B'Marinis 8/12 NY

Father-in-law Tony Porozzy (Parrazzo) 62 IT
- married 34 yrs (abt 1876)
- immig 1882, Na
- wine merchant
Mother-in-law Mary Porozzy 61 IT
- 7 children born, 5 children living
- immig 1901
Brother-in-law Pasquale Porozzy 29 IT
- married? 12 yrs (abt 1898)
- immig 1891, Na
Brother-in-law George Porozzy 17 IT
- immig 1901
And
Head Otto Porozzo 27 IT
- married 0 yrs (1910) NY
- immig 1891, Na
Wife Maryann? Porozzo 21
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Name may be Porrazzo from Avellino or Naples (province), Campania
Possible WW Draft Registration Cards

1918 WWI Card
Pasquale Porrazzo
15 Aug 1881

1918 WWI Card
Otto Porrazzo
25 Nov 1882

1942 WWII Card
Otto Porrazzo
25 Nov 1882 in Avellino (Campania)

1917 WWI Card
Gaetano (George?) Porrazzo
24 May 1892 in Naples (Campania)

1942 WWII Card
George Porrazzo
24 May 1892
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from suanj's :D suggestion:
also to find ...passport can help?

Porrazzo

Carmine Antonio & wife Maria Addonizio
edit: added details
Carmine naturalized in West Chester (NY) on 31 Jul 1903
Born in Campanarello, Avellino (now Venticano, Avellino, Campania)
on 20 Feb 1850
Lived in NY 1883 to 1920
Address 400 E 11 St

1920 passport
Right side of image

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Carmine Antonio Porrazzo and Maria Addonizio Porrazzo

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incredible work!!!

Now if only I could find my Grandfather's passport info. (Vincent Diorio or Vincenzo Diorio, or Di Iorio)

Even better yet, I need to track down his father's stuff... Carmine Giuseppe Angelo Diorio. His town of origin would mean I could write to Italia for the records, no?

Obviously, the De Marinis family was easier!

Grazie, grazie... tanti grazie!
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Question: How did you actually find the passport of the Parrazzo? Couldn't I find my Grandfather's passport using the same method?
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Giovanni: for to write in Italy need of to know the right birthplace, so it is necessary other search steps... the marriage act... and also to find Carmine DI IORIO ship's manifest with Teresa wife... on the ship's manifest maybe it could be the first name: Carmine, or Carmine Giuseppe, or Carmine Giuseppangelo, no Carmine Giuseppe Angelo... but I believe only Carmine... just my suggestion....
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