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Re: marriage records

Postby nuccia » 26 Dec 2007, 19:25

Are you sure about the birth years of Liborio and Maria?
This looks a bit strange but I'll post the census anyway.

1910 United States Federal Census
about Liborio Baldanza
Name: Liborio Baldanza
Age in 1910: 26
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1884
Birthplace: Italy
Relation to Head of House: Head
Father's Birth Place: Italy
Mother's Birth Place: Italy
Spouse's Name: Maria A
Home in 1910: Passaic Ward 1, Passaic, New Jersey
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Gender: Male
Year of Immigration: 1902
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Household Members:
Name Age
Liborio Baldanza 26
Maria A Baldanza 21
Maria G Baldanza 3
Andrea Baldanza 18
Antonino Baldanza 22
Concetta Baldanza 19
Giuseppe Baldanza 16

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Postby nuccia » 26 Dec 2007, 19:28

As per the census, they were married 5 years which puts their year of marriage about 1905.

Let me know if you would like me to link the census for you to view or if you have already seen it.
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Re: marriage records

Postby PeterTimber » 26 Dec 2007, 19:36

Your grandfather Liborio arrived in 1905, single (see line #63 Ellis isl) and then at some point left the USA and went to Italy only to return 6./29/1912 destined to Passaic and is listed as married. Unfortunately the ships manifests are illegible and I have no record for your grandmothers arrival with him in 1912 (pro vided she went to Italy with him in the first place. Thats about all I can add for the moment. =Peter=

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Postby nuccia » 26 Dec 2007, 19:47

Well, I found another Liborio born closer to the birth year as you ancestor also living in N.J.

World War I Draft Registration Cards, 1917-1918
about Liborio Baldanza
Name: Liborio Baldanza
City: Passaic
County: Passaic
State: New Jersey
Birth Date: 28 Feb 1874
Race: White
Roll: 1754424
DraftBoard: 1

But his wife's name is Rosina. If you need to see this I can link it as well.
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Re: marriage records

Postby pink67 » 26 Dec 2007, 19:49

Hi,

here is the 1904 arrival for Maria Santa Glorioso, age 18, single going to her brother Giuseppe 416 East 11 th street (?) New York....

[img=http://img181.imageshack.us/img181/2430/gloriosomariasanta1904ajf5.th.jpg]

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Edit: if Maria Santa's brother's address is correct this is a nearby church:
http://immaculateconception-nyc.org/

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Postby nuccia » 26 Dec 2007, 19:54

The first Liborio's middle name was Vincenzo and married to an Maria Antonia. ( He was born 1883)

The second Liborio, Rosina's husband was a baker. (He was born 1874).

Now, theres another Liborio, born in 1866..all three seem to be from Geraci Siculo, Italy.

U.S. Passport Applications, 1795-1925
about Liborio Baldanza
Name: Liborio Baldanza
Birth Date: 22 May 1866
Birth Place: Geraci Siculo, Italy
Residence: Paterson, New Jersey
Passport Issue Date: 1 Jul 1909
Passport Includes a Photo: N
Source: Passport Applications, January 2, 1906 - March 31, 1925 (M1490)
But he isn't married at the time this passport request was made in 1909 so I doubt its him.

Nice find on Maria's manifest! :D
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Postby PeterTimber » 26 Dec 2007, 20:00

Dear Laura thank you very much for the image shack (shudder!!!) manifest. If I had to choose between Image Shack and death I would die with a smile on my face..=Peter=

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Postby misbris » 26 Dec 2007, 20:03

It looks to me that there were 2 Liberio Baldanzas who were cousins. One was listed as a baker and came to meet the other one in NJ. One or both of them made trips back and forth to Italy.

63 Baldanza, Libono Geracitinls 34 1871 1905
64 Baldanza, Liborcis Gerace Scailo 32 1871 1903
65 Baldanza, Liborio Possaic, NY, Stati Uniti 41 1871 1912
66 Baldanza, Liborio Positano 24 1874 1898
67 Baldanza, Liborio Grnaci, Sicila 29 1870 1899
68 Baldanza, Liborio Terish 28 1865 1893

The baker angle interests me because there was a Baldanza's Bakery in Long Branch, NJ for many years. I don't know if this is the same family. I would suggest you look at all these manifests. There is a lot of information to sort through.

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Postby nuccia » 26 Dec 2007, 20:05

Peter, believe me when I say I felt the same way about imageshack but its really not that bad to use once you get the hang of it.....lol.

But I guess dying with a smile is not so bad either.... :wink: Will you be bringing your PC with you? :P
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Re: marriage records

Postby misbris » 26 Dec 2007, 20:06

You guys posted faster than I did, no fair!!!!

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Postby PeterTimber » 26 Dec 2007, 20:08

The liborio born 1871 is the Liborio who entered the US in 1905 and re-entered in 1912 at age 41 and is the grandfather cited inthe original posting. =Peter=

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Re: marriage records

Postby pink67 » 26 Dec 2007, 20:12

Thanks Nuccia!! :D
Ciao Peter, quale altro sistema posso usare per postare le immagini?? :wink:
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Re: marriage records

Postby pink67 » 26 Dec 2007, 21:02

Perhaps this is the correct Baldanza's family 1920 census:

1920 United States Federal Census
about Liborio Baldanza
Name: Liborio Baldanza
Home in 1920: Passaic Ward 2, Passaic, New Jersey
Age: 47 years
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1873
Birthplace: Italy
Relation to Head of House: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary
Father's Birth Place: Italy
Mother's Birth Place: Italy
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Sex: Male
Home owned: Rent
Year of Immigration: 1892
Able to read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes
Image: 1071
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Household Members: Name Age
Liborio Baldanza 47 (1873)
Mary Baldanza 32 (1888)
Charles Baldanza 11 (1909)
Tony Baldanza 9 (1911)
Josephine Baldanza 7 (1913)
John Baldanza 2 6/12 (1918)

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Re: marriage records

Postby PeterTimber » 26 Dec 2007, 21:26

Cara laura non lo so come si fa per mettere i immagini????? Sto cercando iop stesso come si fa per mettere mio indirizzo "NYC". =Peter=

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Re: marriage records

Postby nuccia » 26 Dec 2007, 22:00

misbris wrote:You guys posted faster than I did, no fair!!!!


Hey, you're usually faster than us! :D
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