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Finding out about Brusatto

Postby Brusatto » 30 Dec 2007, 06:36

We know nothing about my father Joseph's ancestors as he was adopted from a foundling home in Sorbo San Basile, Catanzaro Province, Calabria, soon after his birth 7-9-1896 by a family named Cielo (Chali in the U.S.). Years later an aunt told him his name was Brusatto. This is a unique spelling of the name and we have found only two others, one in Belgium and one in France with the same spelling (which may be wrong). Since I speak only English, I need advice on contacting them.
Joseph (Chali) Brusatto 7-9-1896, came to the U.S. in about 1903 to New York and his family settled in Denver. He died in 1956. I have been unable to locate any reference to his arrival in this country.
His family would appreciate any advice available about finding out something about his ancestors although we have been searching a lifetime without. results. Thank you!

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Re: Finding out about Brusatto

Postby pink67 » 30 Dec 2007, 11:10

Hi Brusatto,
Welcome!! :D
can you give us more details? When Joseph traveled in 1903 he was with his adoptive parents, which are their names?
Did you find Censuses of this family?
Do you know names of siblings or relatives?
Here you can find people very qualified and all togheter we can find something helpful for your search...
Forgive my english please :wink:

Laura

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Re: Finding out about Brusatto

Postby ricbru » 30 Dec 2007, 12:57

Hello,
I have some questions and advices for you:
Did you check his real birth record?
Is he listed as Giuseppe Cielo or Giuseppe Brusatto?
Was he born on July 9th or September 7th?
I suggest you to check the real birth record and also I suggest you to contact Archvio di Stato di Catanzaro that should keep the records of entries of the foundling home located in the village of Sorbo San Basile.
You can extract a copy of his real birth record renting this Sorbo San Basile civil record microfilm to FHL (mormon church)

Nati 1868-1910 -- Pubblicazioni 1866-1910 -- Matrimoni 1867-1910 -- Morti 1866-1888 FHL INTL Film #1848778 Items 3 - 6

or you can write to Sorbo San Basile Civil record office

Comune
Ufficio di Stato Civile
Piazza Margherita
CAP 88050
Sorbo San Basile (CZ)
Italy


I hope it helps
bye Riccardo :lol:

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Re: Finding out about Brusatto

Postby ricbru » 30 Dec 2007, 13:01

Hello,
I have some questions and advices for you:
Did you check his real birth record?
Is he listed as Giuseppe Cielo or Giuseppe Brusatto?
Was he born on July 9th or September 7th?
I suggest you to check the real birth record and also I suggest you to contact Archvio di Stato di Catanzaro that should keep the records of entries of the foundling home located in the village of Sorbo San Basile.
You can extract a copy of his real birth record renting this Sorbo San Basile civil record microfilm to FHL (mormon church)

Nati 1868-1910 -- Pubblicazioni 1866-1910 -- Matrimoni 1867-1910 -- Morti 1866-1888 FHL INTL Film #1848778 Items 3 - 6

or you can write to Sorbo San Basile Civil record office

Comune
Ufficio di Stato Civile
Piazza Margherita
CAP 88050
Sorbo San Basile (CZ)
Italy


I hope it helps
bye Riccardo :lol:

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Re: Finding out about Brusatto

Postby PeterTimber » 30 Dec 2007, 15:35

Luigi aged 48 and Domencio aged 18 BRUSATTO both arrived March 3, 1890 destined to the same place (Castle Garden furnsihes 4 digit numbers as source of destination..Anybody??). The ellisisland.org website also shows Sebastiano Brussato, age 20, single arriving NYC 9/23/1912 as a returning resident to NYC.

The only other strong possiblity is that entry could very well have been made thru another Port (Boston, Philadelphia, Baltimore and so on down to New orleans). remore possiblity is transborder crossing from canada to USA which can be checked out by filing NATF form 84 for all canadian crossings.

Please keep us posted. =Peter=

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Re: Finding out about Brusatto

Postby PeterTimber » 30 Dec 2007, 15:56

There is one more Elise Lisa Busatto aged 60, Silverdale, Washington state. (deceased). =Peter=

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Re: Finding out about Brusatto

Postby vj » 30 Dec 2007, 17:12

For reference, some possible US records

Social Security Death Index
Name: Joseph Brusatto
SSN: 528-05-xxxx
Born: 9 Jul 1896
Died: Feb 1956
State (Year) SSN issued: Utah (Before 1951 )
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possible 1930 census
Home in 1930:
South 5th East, owns
Precinct 4, Salt Lake, Utah

Joseph Bameatto (Brusatto) 33 (abt 1897) IT
- married age 20 (abt 1917, prob in Utah)
- immig 1905
Clara Bameatto 28 (abt 1902) NJ
Frank Bameatto 11 Utah
Mary Bameatto 9 Utah
James Bameatto 6 Utah
Julia Bameatto 4 6/12 Utah
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possible 1917 WWI Draft registration Card
Name: Jos Brusatto
City: Magna
County: Salt Lake
State: Utah
Birthplace: Italy
Birth Date: 9 Jul 1897
Married

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Re: Finding out about Brusatto

Postby vj » 30 Dec 2007, 17:31

Castle Garden furnishes 4 digit numbers as source of
destination..Anybody??


Peter, I couldn't find an answer to your excellent question.
I sent a note to Dr Steve Morse.
I'll post his response as soon as he replies.
Valarie

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Re: Finding out about Brusatto

Postby PeterTimber » 30 Dec 2007, 17:42

Bless you my child!!!!! and a very Happy New Year to you too!!! =Peter=

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Re: Finding out about Brusatto

Postby vj » 30 Dec 2007, 19:22

Response from Dr Steve Morse :D
Dr Steve Morse, author of One-Step Pages

Valarie,

Others have asked that question as well and I have not been able to obtain a
list of all these codes.
What I have been told (by others) are the following codes:

7328: USA
2880: Canada
3455: Bermuda
7778: New York

If you ever discover the full list, please let me know.

-- Steve Morse


orig note:
Dr Morse, I'm another of your long time admirers!
Question for you when you have time...
On the Castle Garden search site, what is the
meaning of the 'destination' number on the
passenger results page, ie 7788
Thank you!
Valarie

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Re: Finding out about Brusatto

Postby vj » 30 Dec 2007, 19:39

More possible clues for locating missing manifest(s):
From ancestry.com

Cielo/Chali Family


possible 1910 census
page 2

Home in 1910:
Frank St, rents farm
Retreat Park, Adams, Colorado

head Rose (may be Rosario) Celi 37 (abt 1873) IT
- married 14 years (abt 1896)
- immig 1903
- speaks English
- gardener
wife Mary Celi 32 (abt 1878) IT
- 7 children born, 7 children living
- immig 1906
- speaks Italian
son Joe Celi 13 (abt 1897) IT
- speaks English
daughter Parmelina Celi 10 (abt 1900) IT
- speaks Italian
son Tony (or Tommy?) Celi 4 (abt 1906) Colorado
son Jimmie Celi 2 (abt 1908) Colorado

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Re: Finding out about Brusatto

Postby pink67 » 30 Dec 2007, 20:30

World War I Draft Registration Cards, 1917-1918
about Jos Brusatto
Name: Jos Brusatto
City: Not Stated
County: Salt Lake
State: Utah
Birthplace: Italy
Birth Date: 9 Jul 1897
Race: Caucasian (White)
Roll: 1983887
DraftBoard: 1

[img=http://img176.imageshack.us/img176/6404/brusattojoswwibp9.th.jpg]

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Re: Finding out about Brusatto

Postby vj » 30 Dec 2007, 21:00

for reference, both Rose (Rosario?) Chali and Joseph Brusatto's
actual death certificates can be found on this site:
Utah Death Certificates
(click on the name to view the certificate)

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Re: Finding out about Brusatto

Postby pink67 » 30 Dec 2007, 21:32

Sorry VJ

I saw now that you already posted Jos's WWI Draft Card..... I need another glasses!!!! 8O

Laura

P.S. from the 1910 Census posted by Vj it seems that Rose (Ross, probably Rosario) Celi/Chali emigrated in 1903 and his wife Mary in 1906.....

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Re: Finding out about Brusatto

Postby vj » 30 Dec 2007, 21:47

Hey Laura!
Interesting first name for this possible Joseph
Valarie

Possible 1905 manifest

1905
1 Jun 1905, Prinzess Irene, Naples to NY
Lines 3-6
Francesca Maria Durante 28 (abt 1877)
- last residence Sorbo S Basile
- destination Denver, Col
- joining husband Rosario Celli
Francesco Celli 7 (abt 1898)
Palma. Guilia Celli 4 (abt 1901)
Ascanio Brusati 9 (abt 1896)

detained page
Line 17

Note: both Durante & Celli are current surnames in Catanzaro


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