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CAMPAGNARI FAMILY

Postby POOH_HART » 06 Jan 2008, 00:53

LOOKING FOR ANY INFORMATION ON CAMPAGNARI FAMILY. MY GRANDFATHER WAS GUY ANDY (GAETANO) BORN IN 1881 IN ITALY, HIS FATHER WAS VALENTINO AND HIS MOTHER WAS MARIA. WE THINK HE HAD A BROTHER NAMED FORTUNATO BUT NOT SURE. IF ANYONE HAS ANY INFORMATION I WOULD GREATLY APPRECIATE ANY HELP YOU CAN GIVE ME. THANKS, PAT POOH_HART@YAHOO.COM

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Re: CAMPAGNARI FAMILY

Postby vj » 06 Jan 2008, 02:47

Hey Pat!
Welcome back :D !
Did the manifest that suanj posted look correct?
He was headed to Lancaster PA?
(click here) previous post
Thanks,
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Re: CAMPAGNARI FAMILY

Postby BillieDeKid » 06 Jan 2008, 02:55

Hi Pat and welcome to the forum.

I found 2 manifests for Gaetano Campagnari born the same year as the person you're looking for. Take a look and see if one of them may be correct.

Line 14...........going to Lancaster, PA
http://www.ellisisland.org/EIFile/popup ... &line=0014

Line 21...............no address of where he's going to
http://www.ellisisland.org/EIFile/popup ... &line=0021

Do you know the comune, province or region in Italy where he was from? The more details you can give the easier it will be for someone on the forum to help you. What year did he come to USA, was he married, if so in Italy or USA, wifes name, his siblings names, approximate years of birth, did they come to the USA too etc.

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Re: CAMPAGNARI FAMILY

Postby BillieDeKid » 06 Jan 2008, 02:56

Hey Val

You're quicker than I am!!

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Re: CAMPAGNARI FAMILY

Postby vj » 06 Jan 2008, 02:58

Do these look correct?

possible 1930 census
Home in 1930:
District 2, Harlan, Kentucky

edit: added detail
Andy Compagana 50 (abt 1880) IT
- owns house $1000
- married age 33 (abt 1913)
- immig 1894 Na
- loader coal, coal mine
Easter Compagana 33 (abt 1897) KY
Benjamin Compagana 13 (abt 1917) KY
Margaret Compagana 11 (abt 1919) KY
Guy Compagana 8 (abt 1922) KY
Albert Compagana 3 7/12 (abt 1926) KY
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edit: added to keep records in sequence
possible 1920 census
Home in 1920:
Evarts, Harlan, Kentucky

Andy Campagmore 39 (abt 1881) IT
- immig 1896, Pa
Edith Campagmore 22 (abt 1898) KY
Benjiman Campagmore 2 7/12 (abt 1917) KY
Margaret Campagmore 1 9/12 (abt 1918) KY

Step-son (may be Easter’s brother)
Daniel Pace 19 (abt 1901) KY
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edit: added
possible 1918 WWI Draft Registration Card
Andy Campagnari 37
Harlan, Harlan, KY
Born 7 Jun 1881 in Italy
Filed 1st papers
Married

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Re: CAMPAGNARI FAMILY

Postby vj » 06 Jan 2008, 02:59

Hi Elizabeth :D !
Hope you had a terrific holiday!
Valarie

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Re: CAMPAGNARI FAMILY

Postby vj » 06 Jan 2008, 03:49

Pat, you’ve seen this record from FamilySearch?

Gaetano (Guy Andy) Campagnari’s brother?
SAN ZENO DI MONTAGNA (VERONA Province, VENETO Region)

Fortunato Gaetano CAMPAGNARI (AFN: 1RP5-THV)
Birth: 1 Dec 1878 S.zeno Di M., Verona, Italia
Parents
Father: Valentino CAMPAGNARI (AFN: 1RP5-T9M)
Mother: Maria Domenica CHINCARINI (AFN: 1RP5-TBT)
Marriage(s)
Spouse: Domenica BERTOLOTTI (AFN: 1RP7-165)
Marriage: 2 May 1909 S.zeno Di M., Verona, Italia
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Note: Chincarini matches the name of the cousin
Gaetano was joining on suanj & Elizabeth's 1906
manifest finds...

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Postby POOH_HART » 07 Jan 2008, 01:00

I ALSO SAW ALL THIS INFORMATION, BUT I HAVE LISTED THAT GAETANO'S BIRTHDATE WAS JUNE 7, 1880 ACCORDING TO HIS DEATH CERTIFICATE. THE BIRTHDATE FOR THIS GAETANO DOESN'T MATCH, AND I HAD NOT HEARD ANYTHING ABOUT HIM BEING MARRIED OTHER THAN MY GRANDMOTHER EASTER PACE. I KNOW THAT HE MARRIED HER TWICE BECAUSE HIS FATHER INLAW DID NOT GET THE PAPERS REGISTERED SO THEY GOT MARRIED AGAIN. I KNOW THAT HE CAME OVER AND WENT BACK AND CAME OVER AGAIN BUT I DON'T HAVE DATES THAT I CAN SAY ARE FOR SURE I KNOW HE CAME OVER WHEN HE WAS 16 I THINK. SO LET ME KNOW WHAT YOU THINK. COULD THIS STILL BE THE SAME PERSON. I JUST AM NOT SURE AND DON'T KNOW HOW TO GO ABOUT MAKING SURE. ANY INFO WOULD BE GREATLY APPRECIATED AND THANKS SO MUCH FOR YOUR QUICK REPLY. PAT

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Re: CAMPAGNARI FAMILY

Postby POOH_HART » 07 Jan 2008, 01:25

HELLO AGAIN,
ALL OF THE ANDY'S THAT YOU HAVE LISTED ARE INFACT MY GRANDFAATHER. HIS NAME WAS GUY ANDY CAMPAGNARI (IT SAYS ANDREW ON HIS DEATH CERTIFICATE). I HAVE BEEN TOLD THAT GAETANO TRANSLATES TO GUY ANDY SO THAT IHES WHAT HE USED I GUESS. I WAS ALSO TOLD THAT HE OPENED THE FIRST SPEAKEASY IN PA. SO HE DID GO TO PA WHEN HE CAME HERE. FIRST ON OCT 22, 1913 AND THEN AGAIN APRIL 10, 1927. IN HARLAN KY. I WAS ALSO TOLD THAT HE HAD A BROTHER THAT HE HAD BOUGHT SOME PROPERTY FROM IN ITALY AND THAT HE HAD GONE BACK TO ITALY AT ONE TIME AND SOLD THE PROPERTY BACK TO HIS BROTHER BUT I DON'T KNOW THE BROTHERS NAME. SO, HE WAS MARRIED TO EASTER PACE, HE HAD ALL THE CHILDREN LISTED ABOVE (MY FATHER WAS ALBERT) AND THIS IS ALL THAT I HAVE. I HAVE CONTACTED A BRUNO CAMPAGNARI IN NEW YORK AND HIS DAD ERNESTO AND MOM GISSELLA WERE ON ONE OF THE SHIPS COMMING OVER FROM SAN ZENO SO HE SAYS HE THINKS THAT WE ARE RELATED AND HE HAS ALOT OF INFO AND SAYS HE HAS A FAMILY TREE AND I HAVE TRIED FOR 3 YEARS TO GET THIS TREE FROM HIM WITH NO LUCK. HE DID CONNECT ME WITH A SILVINO CAMPAGNARI WHO IS STILL IN ITALY (HE OWNS THE CAMPAGNARI BAR) AND HE SAYS HE HAS A VERY LARGE FAMILY TREE DONE AND I ASKED HIM IF HE COULD SEND ME A COPY (I EVEN OFFERED TO PAY FOR IT) AND AGAIN I HAVE GOTTEN NOWHERE SO ANY HELP WOULD BE APPRECIATE. AND I WAS ONLY TOLD THAT HE WAS FROM VERONA ITALY. THANKS FOR ALL OF YOU BEING SO QUICK TO RESPOND. I WILL BE WAITING TO HEAR FROM YOU; THANKS, PAT

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Re: CAMPAGNARI FAMILY

Postby vj » 07 Jan 2008, 16:54

Pat, does this possible 1st trip manifest look correct?
(from essgee’s 2002 post on genforum and Elizabeth's post above)
Two possible brothers/cousins to Gaetano
Valarie

1903 manifest
26 Mar 1903, SS Konig Albert, Bremen to NY
All 3: last residence San Zeno Di Montagna (Verona Province, Veneto Region)
All 3: final destination New York
All 3: not in US before

Line 18 Marcello Campagnari 29 (abt 1873-4) single
Line 21 Gaetano Campagnari 22 (abt 1881-2) single
Line 22 Fortunato Campagnari 27 (abt 1875-6) single

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Re: CAMPAGNARI FAMILY

Postby POOH_HART » 07 Jan 2008, 19:18

THIS IS THE ONE THAT MY SISTER TANA THOUGHT WOULD BE RIGHT AND THAT IT LOOKS LIKE FORTUNATO IS HIS BROTHER BUT HOW DO WE FIND OUT FOR SURE. AS YOU SEE MY SISTERS NAME IS TANA (GAETANO) SO WE THINK SHE WAS NAMED FROM THIS. ALSO MY DADS NAME WAS ALBERT AS WAS THE SHIP. TOO MANY COINCIDENCES FOR ME BUT I NEED TO KNOW FOR SURE. LEAD ME TO WHAT TO DO NEXT. THANKS, PAT

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Re: CAMPAGNARI FAMILY

Postby Tfournier » 18 Jan 2008, 23:26

My name is Tana Fournier and I am the sister of Pat Campagnari. We have been all through the Ancestry.com website and the ellisisland.com site as well. We are looking for an Italian site that we can find Geatano and Valentino Campagnari with some kind of family connection, dates and other items to review. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks,

Tana

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Re: CAMPAGNARI FAMILY

Postby PeterTimber » 19 Jan 2008, 00:28

Can the spelling be Compagnari?? I have Guy Andy Compagnari death1/18/1957 in harlan County, Disney Kentucky. =Peter=

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Re: CAMPAGNARI FAMILY

Postby vj » 19 Jan 2008, 00:51

Can the spelling be Compagnari??
I have Guy Andy Compagnari death1/18/1957 in
harlan County, Disney Kentucky


Hello Peter :D & Tana & Pat!
If I may, yes you have the correct fellow.
Isn't that a wonderful 'americanization' of Gaetano?

Quick summary:
Best guesses from the US records found
(on 2 posts):

Family probably from San Zeno di Montagna, Verona

Parents:
Valentino Campagnari
Maria Domenica Chincarini

Sons:
Fortunato Gaetano Campagnari Dec 1875-8
Gaetano Campagnari Jun 1880-1
(edit to correct Gaetano's name)

Thanks!
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Re: CAMPAGNARI FAMILY

Postby POOH_HART » 19 Jan 2008, 03:45

GUY ANDY COMPAGNARI IS ACTUALLY CAMPAGNARI, THERE WERE ABOUT 4 DIFFERENT SPELLINGS. PART OF THE FAMILY USES CAMPAGNARI AND PART USES COMPAGNARI. WHERE DID YOU FIND THE FORTUNATO GAETANO AND GAETANO AND WOULD THEY PUT THE SAME NAME ON 2 CHILDREN, I DIDN'T THINK THAT WOULD HAPPEN SO I ASSUMED WE HAD THE WRONG PEOPLE. SO PLEASE LET ME KNOW WHERE YOU GOT THIS INFO AND ANYTHING ELSE YOU MIGHT KNOW. THANKS, PAT


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