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Help with my last name

Postby veronicainsandiego » 14 Jan 2008, 23:17

Hi and happy new year to all!
I just joined and was hoping anyone out there can help in my search. Our last name is Boccaloni, although it may have been modified. My father and his father were born in Argentina, but my father says his grandfather came from Italy. We do not have much more information. Any help will be appreciated.
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Re: Help with my last name

Postby vj » 14 Jan 2008, 23:42

Our last name is Boccaloni, although it may have been modified

Hi Veronica,
Welcome to the forum!

Not sure if this will help, an example of the
possible 'Americanization' of your name

Valarie

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There was a Battista Boccaloni
He was born on 23 Apr 1893 in a Lama Mocogno,
(province of Modena, region Emilia Romagna)

his US records:

SSDI from FamilySearch
Battista BOCCALONI
Birth Date: 23 Apr 1893
Death Date: May 1970
Social Security Number: 478-03-xxxx
State or Territory Where Number Was Issued: Iowa
Death Residence Localities ZIP Code: 62025
Localities:
Dunlap Lake, Madison, Illinois
Edwardsville, Madison, Illinois
Glen Carbon, Madison, Illinois
Holiday Shores, Madison, Illinois

from ancestry.com
(click here) 1930 census
Battista Boccaloni

1917 WWI Draft Registration Card
Battista Boccaleoni

from Ellis Island
1909 manifest, line 16
page 2
Battista Boccaleoni
His family (father) lived in Fiumalbo
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The most common spelling currently in Modena is
Boccaleoni

surname research in Italy

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Re: Help with my last name

Postby veronicainsandiego » 16 Jan 2008, 06:36

Hi Valarie and thanks for the help. I did find the info on Battista, and there is also a Mary...they may have married because there is a record of 4 other Boccaloni's also in Edwardsville, and it makes sense with their dates of birth. There is additional information on the grandkids, assuming these were the grandparents, again, because of the ages listed. I guess I have to call or write. I've never done anything like this and I wonder how to better approach them. Any more suggestions? Again, thanks a lot! Veronica

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Re: Help with my last name

Postby suanj » 16 Jan 2008, 11:11

Hi veronica, in Argentina came only this 2 peoples with BAccaloni surname:
Cognome
BACCALONI

Nome
AGOSTINO

Parentela
X

Età
20

Sesso
M

Stato civile
Celibe/Nubile

Professione
DESCONOCIDA

Religione
Cattolico

Porto d'imbarco
GENOVA

Nave
PROVENCE

Data d'arrivo
03-12-1899

Istruzione
Sa

Classe
Terza
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Cognome
BACCALONI

Nome
ENRICO

Parentela


Età
28

Sesso
M

Stato civile
Celibe/Nubile

Professione
JORNALERO

Religione
Cattolico

Porto d'imbarco
GENOVA

Nave
BALTIMORE

Data d'arrivo
13-09-1884

Istruzione
Non sa

Classe

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maybe the surname in Argentina could be Baccaloni or Bacaloni also... as was the first names of your ancestors? regards, suanj
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Re: Help with my last name

Postby suanj » 16 Jan 2008, 11:19

as Bacaloni spelling, also emigrated in argentina:
BACALONI BENEDETTO

BACALONI MARIA

BACALONI ROSA

BACALONI SYLVESTRO
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Re: Help with my last name

Postby veronicainsandiego » 17 Jan 2008, 05:05

Hi Suanj, thanks for the response! My father's name is Hector Romeo Boccaloni. His father was named Romeo Leandro Boccaloni. His father was Ricardo (or Riccardo) Boccaloni and his wife was Vicenta Castorino. My father was born in 1927. His mother, Clara Eduwiges Welcomme, was born in 1903 (but I do not know the date yet). I know my grandfather was a few years older than my grandmother. My dad does not remember anything like dates or names. We do know the last name is most probably "deformed". I think my grandfather had siblings but I can't find the information I had. There was a sister Noemi. She had children, I know one uncle Golfredo Gonzalez Boccaloni, who also lives in Argentina. He has five children, Ricardo, Adelfa, Gustavo, Graciela and one other that they used to call "Pate".
I have found some information like what you sent, but I do not even know who to ask since I do not have the basic of the documents from Argentina, so I can at least get a few more names. I only have my dad's birth certificate andmy grandparents wedding certificate. From there I also know my grandmother's father was Eduardo Welcomme and her mother was Brigita Zavaleta. From this side it is either French or French Basque.
There is a Pier Paolo Boccaloni close to Florence, so the name exists as such, but we may not be related since I do not know the real name of when they came to Argentina. And without dates, it becomes even more difficult. Not everyone is interested in genealogy, even their own. I will contact my cousins, in Argentina, to see if they remember anything else.
I'll let you know what I find out. Thanks again! Veronica

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Postby suanj » 17 Jan 2008, 11:13

ok, I understand... I found this website abt jewish people in 1950 Argentina directory:
Boccaloni Romeo Pan, Echeand 3032____63-8596

http://www.jewishgenealogy.com.ar/guia1 ... ne-70.html
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Re: Help with my last name

Postby suanj » 18 Jan 2008, 14:42

also I found a Riccardo Boccaloni emigrated in Brasil in the 1895... here the family:
ADELINA - - 9/15/1895 ITALIANOS
ENRICO - - 9/15/1895 ITALIANOS
GAETANO BOCCALONI - 9/15/1895 ITALIANOS
MONICA - - 9/15/1895 ITALIANOS
RICCARDO - - 9/15/1895 ITALIANOS
TERESA - - 9/15/1895 ITALIANOS
http://www.memorialdoimigrante.sp.gov.b ... +BOCCALONI
many peoples came in Argentina by Brazil....
from what i understand is that Gaetano was the father but I don't can understand who was the wife(Riccardo mother) if Monica or Teresa or Adelina.... regards, suanj
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Re: Help with my last name

Postby veronicainsandiego » 19 Jan 2008, 07:00

Hi suanj, and thanks again for the information. I am wondering how to find the birth certificates of my grandparents...perhaps that is the first thing to do. In those there should be a bit more information as to the parents. But how can you find that not knowing where they were born? I may be able to get the birthdates; the location may be tricky, since few people paid attention to such details. Any ideas on how to find those in Argentina? Because from this, I guess it is all a toss? Contact one or the other? It Saturday tomorrow, so I will definitely call Argentina to try to contact my cousins.
Will be in touch, Veronica

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Postby suanj » 19 Jan 2008, 09:34

when Hector Romeo Boccaloni and Romeo Leandro Boccaloni emigrated in USA? Ricardo married in Argentina or in Brasil? without exact data it is impossible to find something..... you know where Romeo Leandro Boccaloni was born in Argentina?and the birthdate? Castorino surname... no many peoples with this surname in Italy, currently... the Castorina version of surname have great rilevance especially in Sicily and Lazio regions

in Argentina some Castorino and maybe this record could be interesting:
Cognome
CASTORINO

Nome
VENNERA (Vincenza???)

Parentela
Figlia

Età
15

Sesso
F

Stato civile
Celibe/Nubile

Professione
DESCONOCIDA

Religione
Cattolico

Porto d'imbarco
GENOVA

Nave
SICILIA

Data d'arrivo
12-01-1899

Istruzione
Non sa

Classe
Terza
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same travel:
Cognome
CASTORINO

Nome
FRANCESCO

Parentela
Prob. Parente

Età
60

Sesso
M

Stato civile
Vedovo/a

Professione
FALEGNAME

Religione
Cattolico

Porto d'imbarco
GENOVA

Nave
SICILIA

Data d'arrivo
12-01-1899

Istruzione
Non sa

Classe
Terza
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it is important to find the Ricardo marriage act, and any data possible for to find the italian birthplace... regards, suanj
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Re: Help with my last name

Postby veronicainsandiego » 19 Jan 2008, 23:50

Hi suanj, I just answered on another thread, which link I will include here. http://italiangenealogy.tardio.com/Foru ... =5260.html
My dad, Hector Romeo Boccaloni,never emigrated to the US. He moved to Mexico in the mid 1960's, the past 10 years lived back in Argentina and recently moved back to Mexico. My grandfather Romeo Leandro Boccaloni, never left Argentina except for travel to Mexico to see us. Thanks, V

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Re: Help with my last name

Postby PeterTimber » 20 Jan 2008, 01:15

Are there any questions on your part for the forum?? =Peter=

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Re: Help with my last name

Postby suanj » 20 Jan 2008, 05:41

well in this case the only thing that i can suggest you, maybe the dear friend PeterTimber already said, of to contact the CEMLA http://www.cemla.com/busqueda.html
and by this pages you can know how much Boccaloni peoples immigrated in Argentina... I don't know if you was related also with Salvatore Boccaloni artist in Argentina... from what I know, he born in Roma and raised in Milan, before of immigration in Argentina... he made some trip also in USA and in Brazil... maybe could be a trace for to have a idea of your ancestors came from... regards, suanj
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