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Giuseppe Orso from Candelo arrived New York 1903

Postby orsoch » 31 Jan 2008, 19:57

Hello Everyone, I am a newbie from UK who has only just found this forum.

I am trying to find out if Giuseppe Orso from Candelo, Italy and is listed as arriving in New York on 9th August 1903 aboard The Champagne out of Le Havre, France, aged 20 could be a relation.

I am researching our family tree and all I know is that 3 brothers left Candelo, Biella, Piemonte around that time. One went to US, one to South Africa and one came to England - my great grandfather - Quinto Orso.

I thought I found a reference to a death of that name in NYC in 1970's but lost the link when our pc got trashed.

I would welcome any news on that name or advice on how to proceed to find relations of that person and see if they can coroborate the evidence.

warmest regards,

Chris Orso

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Re: Giuseppe Orso from Candelo arrived New York 1903

Postby vj » 31 Jan 2008, 20:33

Hi Chris, Welcome to the Forum!
Do you mean this 1903 manifest (click here)
Giuseppe Orso was joining his father Serafino in NY?

Father Serafino Orso’s possible 1901 manifest
(joining a Giovanni Orso in NY)

Does this fit with your family?

Thanks! Valarie

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Re: Giuseppe Orso from Candelo arrived New York 1903

Postby suanj » 31 Jan 2008, 20:38

Giuseppe Orso made also another trip in USA:
New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957
about Giuseppe Orso
Name: Giuseppe Orso
Arrival Date: 15 Jan 1923
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1884
Age: 39
Gender: Male
Port of Departure: Genoa, Italy
Ethnicity/Race­/Nationality: Italian (North) (Italian)
Ship Name: Conte Rosso
Search Ship Database: View the Conte Rosso in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Nativity: Italy
Line: 28
Microfilm Serial: T715
Microfilm Roll: T715_3243
Birth Location: Italy
Birth Location Other: candelo
Page Number: 136

father in Candelo: Serafino Giovanni Orso; wife in New York: Lina Orso 435 West 25th st New York; Giuseppe was resident in New York for 19 years.....
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Re: Giuseppe Orso from Candelo arrived New York 1903

Postby suanj » 31 Jan 2008, 20:39

U.S. World War II Draft Registration Cards, 1942
about Joe Orso
Name: Joe Orso
Birth Date: 30 Aug 1883
Residence: New York City
Birth: Candelo, Italy
Race: White
Roll: WW2_2368432
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1920 United States Federal Census
about Joseph Orso
Name: Joseph Orso
Home in 1920: Manhattan Assembly District 3, New York, New York
Age: 37 years
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1883
Birthplace: Italy
Relation to Head of House: Head
Spouse's Name: Caroline
Father's Birth Place: Italy
Mother's Birth Place: Italy
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Sex: Male
Home owned: Rent
Year of Immigration: 1903
Able to read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes
Image: 162
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Joseph Orso 37
Caroline Orso 28


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1930 United States Federal Census
about Joseph Orso
Name: Joseph Orso
Home in 1930: Richmond, Richmond, New York
Age: 47
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1883
Birthplace: Italy
Relation to Head of House: Head
Spouse's Name: Caroline
Race: White
Occupation:

Education:

Military service:

Rent/home value:

Age at first marriage:

Parents' birthplace: View Image
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Joseph Orso 47
Caroline Orso 38
Desiderio Perino 20 (brother in law)

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same peoples...?

1910 United States Federal Census
about Rosa Orso
Name: Rosa Orso
Age in 1910: 1
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1909
Birthplace: Illinois
Relation to Head of House: Daughter
Father's Name: Joe
Father's Birth Place: Italy
Mother's Name: Carolina
Mother's Birth Place: Italy
Home in 1910: Cahokia, MacOupin, Illinois
Marital Status: Single
Race: White
Gender: Female
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Joe Orso 30
Carolina Orso 18
Rosa Orso 1


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Social Security Death Index
about Joseph Orso
Name: Joseph Orso
SSN: 068-05-5726
Last Residence: 10304 Staten Island, Richmond, New York, United States of America
Born: 30 Aug 1883
Died: Jul 1969
State (Year) SSN issued: New York (Before 1951 )
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Re: Giuseppe Orso from Candelo arrived New York 1903

Postby vj » 31 Jan 2008, 20:41

Really neat records suanj :D !
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Re: Giuseppe Orso from Candelo arrived New York 1903

Postby suanj » 31 Jan 2008, 20:58

wife of Giuseppe Orso:
Carolina PERINO, from Pralungo (Novara) returning at home same address 433(435) West 25th st New York
Carolina Perino Oct 12, 1924

http://ellisisland.org/search/shipManif ... 0518%2ETIF

http://ellisisland.org/search/shipmanif ... 0402030047
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previous travel

Carolina Perino Dec 27, 1913


http://ellisisland.org/search/shipManif ... 0308%2ETIF
father in law in Candelo: Orso Serafino
http://ellisisland.org/search/shipmanif ... 0825040174
joining at husband Orso Giuseppe
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first travel: Carolina Perino Sep 02, 1905
http://ellisisland.org/search/shipmanif ... 2445180392
Perino Carolina, from Pralungo, with Placido brother and Carolina NEGRO mother, joining at Bartolomeo Perino in West Hoboken
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Carolina :
Social Security Death Index
about Carolina Orso
Name: Carolina Orso
SSN: 065-09-3484
Last Residence: 12776 Roscoe, Sullivan, New York, United States of America
Born: 2 Jan 1892
Died: Sep 1985

State (Year) SSN issued: New York (Before 1951 )


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Re: Giuseppe Orso from Candelo arrived New York 1903

Postby suanj » 31 Jan 2008, 21:03

vj wrote:Really neat records suanj :D !
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Re: Giuseppe Orso from Candelo arrived New York 1903

Postby BillieDeKid » 31 Jan 2008, 21:11

duplicat post

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Re: Giuseppe Orso from Candelo arrived New York 1903

Postby orsoch » 31 Jan 2008, 22:14

Thank you all so much! what a response. there is plenty for me to digest.

I checked with my Dad but the names don't mean anything to him and all other family are gone, so I need to start digging.

Please can you advise how to proceed next? Do you have any advice on contacting records offices in Italy to see if I can tie Guiseppe and his father Serafino back to my great grandfather, Quinto?

My dad seems to think also that Quinto took a ship to the states in the 20's to visit his uncle, would that feature on a ships record somewhere?

I can't tell you how excited I am to have made contact with you and naturally a little sad that I didn't start my quest when I was younger (I am 48, my Dad Ray is 74, his Dad Guido died aged 50 in 1956) when the trail was warmer.

Do you have any advice on how I might contact a relative of someone who died in the US to see if they remember any family history that can tie it all together?

thanks once again,

Chris

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Re: Giuseppe Orso from Candelo arrived New York 1903

Postby suanj » 01 Feb 2008, 14:23

I believe that you can see Candelo microfilms by LDS( Mormons).. Candelo is under Vercelli province on LDS website:
http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Library ... umns=*,0,0

http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Library ... umns=*,0,0

and this is the better thing, because so you can have all data.... and the genealogic tree back until you wish...
I cannot find a travel abt Quinto ORSO in the USA...... abt Giuseppe Orso, until 1930 it seem that had no more children, only the little Rosa in the 1910, in 1920 no Rosa are, so she can be died infant.... the better thing is to find a Giuseppe obituary, just for to know more... best regards, suanj
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Re: Giuseppe Orso from Candelo arrived New York 1903

Postby cperino-kovarik » 16 Apr 2009, 01:10

Hello
My son just stumbled upon this website when looking for some of our family history.
Joseph and Carolina Orso were my paternal great Aunt and Uncle. "Lina" was my grandfather's (Desiderio Perino) sister.
We have also been looking for information on when and how they arrived in America.
Although I was very young when Joe died, I have pictures and some memories of him.
My father and his brothers and sister may be able to shed more light on some of the family history. The information that they had a child, Rosa, is completely new to us.
Please contact me with any information you may have.
Thank you,
Carolyn Perino-Kovarik

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Re: Giuseppe Orso from Candelo arrived New York 1903

Postby dscanzio » 26 Jan 2011, 21:11

I am writing to you upon reading your note. My family is from Candelo also. My great grandparents were Giovanni Scanzio and Maria Orso. My grandmother, their daughter was Adelina Rosa Scanzio.

I noticed with the family name of Orso as well as Rosa there may be relation to Maria.

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Re: Giuseppe Orso from Candelo arrived New York 1903

Postby dscanzio » 26 Jan 2011, 21:11

I am writing to you upon reading your note. My family is from Candelo also. My great grandparents were Giovanni Scanzio and Maria Orso. My grandmother, their daughter was Adelina Rosa Scanzio.

I noticed with the family name of Orso as well as Rosa there may be relation to Maria.

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Re: Giuseppe Orso from Candelo arrived New York 1903

Postby orsoch » 03 Feb 2011, 15:53

Hi!

I hardly ever drop by this web site and so was a nice surprise to see you had added some more mystery to the trail!

I am in London and with limited time to spend on this research. I had a nice exchange of emails with Caroline (see previous posts) but have still not found the time to visit the Mormon register in London to see what I can unnearth.

I have tried unsuccessfully to write to official bodies in Candelo but have had no reply :(

I hope your message spurs me to dig a little deeper this year.

Kind regards,

Chris Orso


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