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Ranalli family

Postby raganwaldaz » 26 Feb 2008, 17:36

hello
i am looking for any information anyone may have on my family name and backround. I understand that it is a variation on the original germanic name ragan waldaz. I was also wondering if anyone had a link or a coat of arms. I have found 2 different ones. My family is originally from Canzano, Abruzzo. My grandfathers name was Sabatino Ranalli born around 1899.
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Re: Ranalli family

Postby vj » 26 Feb 2008, 19:51

Hi and Welcome to the Forum! :D
We would be happy to help!
What records do you already have for your grandfather
Sabatino?
Where did he live? Family member names, ages?
Thanks! Valarie

For reference, could this be his brother Nicola?
1942 WWII Draft Registration Card
Nicola Ranalli 48
1201 W Third St
Chester, Delaware, PA
Born 20 Aug 1894 in Terame Abruzzi
(probably province of Teramo, Abruzzo)

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Re: Ranalli family

Postby raganwaldaz » 26 Feb 2008, 20:02

thank you for your help
Sabatino Ranalli born 1899 in canzano, abruzzo moved to Canada
had an older brother named Nicola who moved to USA
i beleive their father was either Nicola or Giovanni Ranalli
my father Giovanni Ranalli was born in Notaresco Nov 22, 1931

any information would be appreciated
i am also looking into the backround of the name
coat of arms and such

thank you again Valarie

Mario

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Re: Ranalli family

Postby vj » 26 Feb 2008, 21:07

Hey Mario
Do any of these names look familiar?
Valarie

Same age as the Nicola in Phila in 1942
1913 manifest
page 2
23 Apr 1913 SS Madonna, Naples to NY
Nicola Ranalli 18 (abt 1895)
- single
- last residence Silvi (Teramo, Abruzzo)
- in Silvi, father Antonio
- destination Berwick, PA
- joining his cousin Luigi di Sante/o
- born in Silvi

Note: traveling with line 2,
his cousin Gaetano Ciferni
- same destination

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Re: Ranalli family

Postby vj » 26 Feb 2008, 21:11

coat of arms


This may help, an article from this forum’s archive:

Italian Heraldry

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Re: Ranalli family

Postby vj » 26 Feb 2008, 21:32

family name


From Italy World Club:
RAINALDI, RANALLI, RANALLO: From the first name Rinaldo of German origin

From Behind the Name
RINALDO
Gender: Masculine
Usage: Italian
Italian form of REYNOLD

REYNOLD
Gender: Masculine
Usage: English
Pronounced: REN-uld [key]

From the Germanic name Reginold,
composed of the elements
ragin "advice" and
wald "rule"

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Re: Ranalli family

Postby raganwaldaz » 27 Feb 2008, 00:57

thankyou vj
nicola ranalli born in 1895 is his brother
his wife was madelina
i cant tell you how wonderfull it was for you to send that to me
if you have anything that you come across, please let me know
thankyou so much for your kindness
mario

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Re: Ranalli family

Postby vj » 27 Feb 2008, 15:15

from ancestry.com

Social Security Death Index
Name: Nick Ranalli
SSN: 166-07-6509
Last Residence:
19013 Chester, Delaware, Pennsylvania,
United States of America
Born: 20 Aug 1894
Died: Jun 1973
State (Year) SSN issued: Pennsylvania (Before 1951)

Name: Madeline Ranalli
Birth Date: 07 June 1911
Death Date: January 1986
Issuing State: Pennsylvania
Residence at Death:
Chester,Delaware,Pennsylvania 19013
SSN: 202-18-4958
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1930 census
Home in 1930:
614 West Third Street, rents $30
Chester, Delaware, Pennsylvania
Head Nicholas Ranalli 35 (abt 1895) IT
- married age 33 (abt 1928)
- immig 1912, Na (naturalized)
- Laborer, Steel Wks
- no military service
Wife Madaleine Ranalli 19 (abt 1911) PA
- parents born in Italy
Daughter Eva G Ranalli 11/12 (abt 1929) PA

Note: included as part of Novello family?
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1917 WWI Draft Registration Card
Nicola Ranalli
341 Howell St
Chester, Delaware, PA
Born 20 Aug 1894 in Teramo, Abruzzi, Italy
Alien
Thurlow Steel Wks, Chester, PA
Support Mother & Father
Single

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Re: Ranalli family

Postby vj » 27 Feb 2008, 15:37

Living with his future wife’s family?

possible 1920 census
Home in 1920:
119 Howell Street
Chester Ward 8, Delaware, Pennsylvania

Head Joseph E Ambrosion 37
- immig 1905, Al (alien)
Wife Josephine Ambrosion 31
- immig 1905, Al
Children all born in PA
Son Ralph Ambrosion 12
Daughter Saverio Ambrosion 10
Daughter Madeline Ambrosion 8 (abt 1912)
Daughter Mary Ambrosion 7
Son Peter Ambrosion 4 6/12
Daughter Grace Ambrosion 2 8/12

Boarder Gaetano Paraseandolo 36
- immig 1909, Pa (filed 1st papers)

Boarder Nicholas Roanlli 25 (abt 1895)
- single
- immig 1912, Pa
- Bolter, Shipyard

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Re: Ranalli family

Postby raganwaldaz » 27 Feb 2008, 16:10

Dear Valarie
there is much food for thought here
thank you again
history can indeed be interesting
especially when stories passed down can be associated to real historical events
i will now be attempting to research my great grandfather who appears to be named Antonio Ranalli (not a name found normally in our family)

two points confuse me though,
if he came over on his uncle's name (luigi) then i must have another relative i do not know (my great grandfathers brother?)
and
it says on the registration form that nicola was supporting his parents, but would they be in the USA. ?

like i said, more topics to research and more enjoyment for me
thanks
Mario

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Re: Ranalli family

Postby vj » 27 Feb 2008, 16:25

Dear Mario,
You're very welcome!

history can indeed be interesting
especially when stories passed down can be associated to
real historical events

It's so nice when family stories turn out to be true!

i will now be attempting to research my great grandfather
who appears to be named Antonio Ranalli (not a name found normally
in our family)

It is unusual, but it happened in my family as well!

two points confuse me though,
if he came over on his uncle's name (luigi) then i must have
another relative i do not know (my great grandfathers brother?)

Not sure if it's an uncle or cousin, but it does appear that you did have
more relatives in the US.
Is it possible they were from your great grandmother's side?

it says on the registration form that nicola was supporting his parents,
but would they be in the USA.?

they could have been in Italy - he was sending money home?

like i said, more topics to research and more enjoyment for me


Mario, have you looked into whether or not the [url=http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Library/FHLC/frameset_fhlc.asp]Family History
Library[/url] has any of your towns in Italy on microfilm?
If they do, the records can be amazing!

an example:
Topic:
Italy, Teramo, Canzano - Civil registration
Titles:
Registri dello stato civile, 1809-1910 Canzano (Teramo).
Ufficio dello stato civile


Valarie

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Re: Ranalli family

Postby vj » 27 Feb 2008, 16:32

Mario,
In case you haven't done this before.
Just a short summary on researching records
in Italy using the rsources from the Family Hisory
Library.
Valarie

A great place to start:

FamilySearch Home Page
Includes how to find your nearest local Family History Center
and a free genealogy program for downloading
to your computer (PAF) to organize your research.

Italian Record Research from the FamilySearch research guides:
Italy Research Outline
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Three terrific books
to help you find, read & understand your records:

Italian Genealogical Records
How to Use Italian Civil, Ecclesiastical, &
Other Records in Family History Research

By Tafford R Cole
google book link

A Genealogist’s Guide to
Discovering Your Italian Ancestors
How to find and record your unique heritage
By Lynn Nelson
google book link

Finding Italian Roots
By John Philip Colletta, PhD
google book link
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More on the Family History Center

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Steps for Finding Microfilm at the Family History Center

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Re: Ranalli family

Postby raganwaldaz » 27 Feb 2008, 18:05

excellent thanks Valarie
ill get my son into this as well
after all he gets all the information
after me : )


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