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Surname, Colle

Postby Longhntr » 02 Mar 2008, 18:31

Hi, I am looking for any information on my Grandfather.

His name was Francesco Colle, He was born Aug. 22, 1893, he was from Arzano, Napoli, Italy.

His (and my family's) name was some way changed to Collo.

The problem is He was an orphan, or grew up in an orphanage. I belive the orphanage he grew up in was burned down or had a fire? He did live with a family when he was a boy but they did not give him their name.

Any help would be appreciated. Thank You
Marc

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Re: Surname, Colle

Postby misbris » 02 Mar 2008, 21:18

Hi and welcome to the forum,

Is this your grandfather?

http://www.ellisisland.org/EIFile/popup ... &line=0018
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http://www.ellisisland.org/EIFile/popup ... &line=0018

Manifest gives the name of a mother and an adopted father?

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Re: Surname, Colle

Postby Longhntr » 03 Mar 2008, 03:59

Yes that is him. I have pulled Ellis Island info up before but never that much detail. Thank you.
The fact that his US contact was his adopted father, Gallapo, and his destination was Port Richmond in Staten Island, NY ( where he lived his whole life in US) Confirms that this is him.

I am trying to find out if Colle was his birth name or one given to him by the orphanage. Thank you again.

Do you know what those notations are, from the 1930s it seems, on his line?

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Re: Surname, Colle

Postby misbris » 03 Mar 2008, 04:41

Did you note that he left his mother Maria Rosa in Italy? There was no last name given which leads one to believe that it was Colle. Or was she Gallapo's wife ?

Notations have to do with naturalization. Here is a site that helps explain.
http://www.jewishgen.org/infofiles/Manifests/

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Re: Surname, Colle

Postby Longhntr » 03 Mar 2008, 11:03

Yes I did note his mother's name, I am not sure if that was his adopted mother or not. Up until now I only knew the last name of the family that took him in.

Once again, Thank You.

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Re: Surname, Colle

Postby misbris » 03 Mar 2008, 16:14

Someone here should be able to help with census records, That will give you a better idea of what other family there was. I believe when I checked there was only one Colle and one Gallapo manifest. Draft cards and naturalization info will give you info also. I don't know if Port Richmond is part of NYC or not, but if it is here is a good site

http://www.italiangen.org/default.htm

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Re: Surname, Colle

Postby Biff83 » 03 Mar 2008, 16:26

World War II Draft Reg Card
Name: Frank Colle
Birth Date: 22 Aug 1893
Residence: 70 Bowles Ave, Port Richmond, Richmond, New York
Birth: Naples, Italy
Person who will know address: Camille Colle
http://img107.imageshack.us/img107/2343 ... wiisx1.jpg

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Re: Surname, Colle

Postby Longhntr » 03 Mar 2008, 19:15

You guys are good, thanks again.

Port Richmond is part of Staten Island, NYC. That is where my father was from.
The draft card shows my Grandmother as notification.

Just FYI we can't always blame the guy at Ellis Island for changing our names. You can see the name Colle on official US records, but somehow along the way it was changed to Collo. I think my Uncle just started spelling it that way because thats how people said the name?

Is there any way to access Italian Records? Church Records?

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Re: Surname, Colle

Postby Biff83 » 03 Mar 2008, 19:45

Marriage record information from Italian Genealogical Group
Groom
Collo Francesco May 29 1921 Richmond 415 (Certificate #)
Bride
Sbarra Carmela May 29 1921 415 (Certificate #) Richmond

1930 census for Frank Collo and family with inlaws
Port Richmond, Richmond, New York
http://img229.imageshack.us/img229/330/ ... llovj1.jpg
Frank Collo 37, immigration year 1912, alien
Amelia? Collo 34
Frank Collo 7
Mary Collo 1
Antoinette Collo 1
Cosmo Sbarra 60
Christina Sbarra 59
Pellegrino Sbarra 20
Louis Sbarra 13
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Re: Surname, Colle

Postby ricbru » 03 Mar 2008, 19:49

Longhntr wrote:Hi, I am looking for any information on my Grandfather.

His name was Francesco Colle, He was born Aug. 22, 1893, he was from Arzano, Napoli, Italy.

His (and my family's) name was some way changed to Collo.

The problem is He was an orphan, or grew up in an orphanage. I belive the orphanage he grew up in was burned down or had a fire? He did live with a family when he was a boy but they did not give him their name.

Any help would be appreciated. Thank You
Marc


Hello,
you can get more infos about him and his parents writing to:

Comune
Ufficio di Stato Civile
Piazza R. Cimmino, n. 6
CAP 80022
Arzano (NA) - Italy

I hope it helps,
bye Riccardo

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Re: Surname, Colle

Postby Biff83 » 03 Mar 2008, 20:00

Thanks, Riccardo.

In checking Francesco's manifest, it shows his last residence as Arzano but his birthplace as Napoli. If he was born in the town of Napoli rather than the province of Napoli, longhntr will need to write there for his birth record rather than to Arzano.

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Re: Surname, Colle

Postby ricbru » 03 Mar 2008, 20:49

Biff,
if his place of birth is Napoli, then Marc needs to write to the following address:

Comuni
Ufficio Stato Civile
Att. Mr. Barrile
Via dell'Emopeo - Parco Quadrifoglio
80126 Napoli - Italy

I hope it helps
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Re: Surname, Colle

Postby Longhntr » 03 Mar 2008, 21:30

Many thanks to all.

Biff, Sbarra was my grandmothers maiden name ,those are all related.
Funny how her name is listed as Camile, Carmella and Amelia.


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