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Migliaccio-Gelsomino

Postby jk123 » 05 Mar 2008, 20:21

:D Looking for any help on my GGrandparents and beyond
Guiseppe b.1878 in C Giovanni
Carmela Migliaccio b. 1883 in C Giovanni
They had two daughters born in Italy - Rosa (Rose)b 1901 in Palermo and Frances b 1905 also in Palermo
All immigrated to America btwn 1910-1911
Carmela had brothers Luis (Louis) and Frank (Francesco)
Their mother is Rosalia Agelao and all I can find on her is that she came thru Ellis Island in 1907 and she was a widow at that time.
Any information would be much appreciated.
Thanking you in advance.
Jan

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Re: Migliaccio-Gelsomino

Postby Biff83 » 05 Mar 2008, 20:52

Hello Jan and welcome to Italian Genealogy!!

1912 manifest for Carmela and daughters Rosa and Francesca, lines 26-28
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Carmela, age 27, yob about 1885
Rosa, age 11, yob about 1901
Francesca, age 3, yob about 1909
Last residence and place of birth: Castrogiovanni (now called Enna)
Nearest relative in Italy--nobody
Destination New York NY to join husband/father Giuseppe Gelsomino

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Re: Migliaccio-Gelsomino

Postby Biff83 » 05 Mar 2008, 21:32

1907 manifest for Rosalia Agelao, line 18
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Age 43, yob about 1864
Last residence: Castrogiovanni
Birthplace: Leonforte, province of Enna, Sicily
Nearest relative in Italy: daughter Carmela Migliaccio
Destination Lawrence MA to join nephew Salvatore Bruno
Previously in Buenos Aires??

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Re: Migliaccio-Gelsomino

Postby jk123 » 05 Mar 2008, 21:37

Thanks Biff. I was hoping to find more info regarding their life in Italy. I just don't know where to start. I don't read or write Italian :(
I've gotten as much info from the Ellis Island site that I can. I was searching MA, NY and PA for more on my GGrandmother but either the spelling is wrong or she re-married. Someone told me that Italian women often keep their maiden names and only name the children with the husbands name.
My grandparents went to PA after they immigrated then came to MI. There was a spelling change along the way (now Jelsomeno).
Any suggestions as to what I can do next short of travelling to Sicily (although I'd love to some day!)?
Thanks again.
Jan

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Postby Biff83 » 05 Mar 2008, 21:44

Another brother of Carmela?
Did not sail 1910 manifest for Salvatore Migliaccio, line 29
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Age 19, yob about 1891
Last residence and place of birth: Castrogiovanni
Nearest relative in Italy: sister Carmela
Destination: New York, NY to join mother Rosalia Agelao

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Re: Migliaccio-Gelsomino

Postby jk123 » 05 Mar 2008, 21:55

Biff! You are the greatest!! :D
I could not pull up the manifest for Rosalia and this helps alot! I can now search in Lawrence MA. And was unsure about another brother named Salvatore. There may yet be another one - Luigi but that may be Luis.
Well this excites me and gives me another direction to search!
One more question. Is there some way to get records from the town in Italy? I know the name changed to Enna back in the '20's I believe but again I don't write Italian.
Thanks again!! :D :D :D

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Re: Migliaccio-Gelsomino

Postby BillieDeKid » 05 Mar 2008, 23:10

Hi Jan and Biff

There are microfilms from LDS for CastroGiovanni (Enna)

Civil records 1820 through 1910 for birth, death, marriages etc.
http://www.familysearch.org/eng/Library ... nna+%28E++

Census records 1569 through 1815
http://www.familysearch.org/eng/Library ... %28Enna2++

Find a Family History Center near you, write down the films you'd like to view and go in to order. Takes about 4 weeks to receive and cost is about $5.50 USD per film
http://www.familysearch.org/eng/Library ... et_fhc.asp

Hope this helps
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Re: Migliaccio-Gelsomino

Postby jk123 » 05 Mar 2008, 23:58

Thanks Elizabeth :D
I've actually been to the LDS center near me but here's a stupid question...how do I know what film I want to view?
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Re: Migliaccio-Gelsomino

Postby BillieDeKid » 06 Mar 2008, 00:44

Hi Jan, don't worry it's not a stupid question at all.

Based on the years of birth you state - Giuseppe born 1878 and Carmela born 1883 you should probably start with these films

Nati 1866-1879 - FHL INTL Film # 1916183 (for Giuseppes year of birth)
Nati 1878-1889 - FHL INTL Film # 1816184 (for Giuseppes and Carmela's year's of birth)
Matrimoni 1885-1910 Cittadinanze 1886-1910 Indici Decennali 1866-1910 - FHL INTL Film # 1916352 - Marriage of Giuseppe and Carmela, Citizen records for both and 10 year index for both

Nati = Birth
Morti = Death
Matrimoni = Marriage

These 3 films should give you a good starting point. As for their daughters do you know if they were born in the comune of Palermo in the province of Palermo or another comune in Palermo province?

Let me know if you have any questions on the films.

Elizabeth

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Re: Migliaccio-Gelsomino

Postby Biff83 » 06 Mar 2008, 01:07

Hi Elizabeth :D !

On daughters Rosa and Francesca's manifest, the birthplace is listed as Castrogiovanni.

Jan,
On Rosalia's manifest, the birthplace is listed as Leonforte.

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Re: Migliaccio-Gelsomino

Postby Biff83 » 06 Mar 2008, 01:26

1910 manifest for Giuseppe Gelsomino, see line 6
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Age 31, yob about 1879
Last residence and place of birth: Castrogiovanni
Nearest relative in Italy: wife Carmela MIgliazzo Migliaccio?
Destination New York Ny to join brother in law Ignazio Migliazzo Migliaccio?

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Re: Migliaccio-Gelsomino

Postby BillieDeKid » 06 Mar 2008, 01:34

Biff83 wrote:Hi Elizabeth :D !

On daughters Rosa and Francesca's manifest, the birthplace is listed as Castrogiovanni.

Jan,
On Rosalia's manifest, the birthplace is listed as Leonforte.

Biff


Hey Biff thanks for that info. Then Jan will also want to order the following film for Rosa and Francesca's births
Nati 1900-1910 FHL INTL Film # 1916349

Civil records of Leonforte cover the years 1841-1865 - Biff do you think Jan might find Rosalia's birth act in these records?
http://www.familysearch.org/eng/Library ... o+civile++

Three different churches for Leonforte so a baptismal record should exist
Registri ecclesiastici, 1612-1915 Chiesa cattolica. San Giovanni Battista (Leonforte, Enna)
http://www.familysearch.org/eng/Library ... 612-1915++
Registri ecclesiastici, 1657-1929 Chiesa cattolica. Santo Stefano (Leonforte, Enna)
http://www.familysearch.org/eng/Library ... 657-1929++
Registri ecclesiastici, 1884-1910 Chiesa cattolica. Maria Santissima Annunziata (Leonforte, Enna)
http://www.familysearch.org/eng/Library ... 884-1910++

Let me know if you think any of these links should be removed Biff......Jan these films work the same way as the other films I referenced.

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Re: Migliaccio-Gelsomino

Postby Biff83 » 06 Mar 2008, 01:41

1908 manifest for Ignasio Migliazzo (Migliaccio) see line 6
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Age 20, yob about 1880
Last residence and place of birth: Castrogiovanni
Nearest relatives in Italy: brothers Luigi and Salvatore
Destination Boston Ma to join mother Rosalia A(n)gelao at 5 North Square

It appears that the family name shows up under two variations--Migliazzo and Migliaccio.

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Re: Migliaccio-Gelsomino

Postby jk123 » 06 Mar 2008, 01:42

:D WOW! You two are awesome! I was at the LDS center about 5 yrs ago. At that time I was just looking for my grandparents obits and cemetery plots. What/how do I ask them for what I want?

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Re: Migliaccio-Gelsomino

Postby Biff83 » 06 Mar 2008, 01:46

If we've got the right family, Rosalia was in Lawrence MA in 1907 (her manifest), in Boston MA in 1908 (son Ignazio's manifest) and in New York NY in 1910 (son Salvatore's manifest). And she may have previously been in Buenos Aires as written on her manifest. I'm off to look for a manifest for son Luigi to see where she was when he emigrated.

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