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Seminara - Sicily

Postby deejasmine » 12 Mar 2008, 01:48

I am researching my Grandfather's family.

I know my GGrandparents (Michael and Rosa Seminara) arrived in either 1899 (1920 census info) or 1900 (1930 census info).

I know that they travelled with 5 children (Ignazio, Vincenzo, Mary, Sadie and John) ranging from 14 +/- to 4 +/- yrs of age and such a large group should be fairly ealy to find in the passenger lists - but I have had no success in finding their info in any port of call along the eastern coast.

Info is also uncertain as to where they were from:
* census' read Palermo, Italy (province I assume)
* family members say Alimena
* a WWI draft registry puts it as Armena (as father's birthplace) and Colesaro as register's birtplace.

So much conflicting info how do I determine right info and bad info?

Any help would be wonderful!

Thanks ~Denise

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Re: Seminara - Sicily

Postby MysteryMike » 12 Mar 2008, 02:22

Do you have where you found them in 1920 and 1930?

Maybe they didn't come over all at the same time... For instance, I found an Ignaz(r)io coming over in 1899, to join father Michele

Ignario Seminaro Passenger List

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Re: Seminara - Sicily

Postby vj » 12 Mar 2008, 14:31

Rose traveling under her maiden name (Ferrara) w/children
possible 1899 manifest

13 Sep 1899 SS Tartar Prince, Naples to NY
Lines 3-7
Last residence Alimena (Palermo, Sicily)
Joining husband/father Seminara in NY

Rose Ferrara 31 (abt 1868)
Son Vincenzo 10 (abt 1889)
Daughter Maria 9 (abt 1890)
- possible naturalization notation 2X132833 505 9/23/41
Daughter Orsilia 5 (abt 1894)
Son Giovanni 3 (abt 1897)

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Re: Seminara - Sicily

Postby MysteryMike » 12 Mar 2008, 14:36

Great find vj.... and Ignazio is not present, so maybe he came earlier in the year on his own...

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Re: Seminara - Sicily

Postby vj » 12 Mar 2008, 14:41

Hey Mike :D ,
You're right, may be missing at least 2 manifests.
Your 1899 manifest for Ignazio looks like one of them!

Earlier census records may help.
I believe the 1920 & 1930 census are in Enfield, Hartford, CT.
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Re: Seminara - Sicily

Postby MysteryMike » 12 Mar 2008, 15:06

From children's birth places.... we may find them in NY in 1900 and CT in 1910....

Michael lists that he came over 1899... and if his son Ignazio was going to live with him, it would mean Michael came over sometime between Jan 1st - March 13th, 1899... assuming everything is on the up and up...

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Re: Seminara - Sicily

Postby vj » 12 Mar 2008, 15:17

we may find them in NY in 1900 and CT in 1910....

1910 census in CT?
1910

Home in 1910:
12 Whitworth Street
Enfield, Hartford, Connecticut

Head Michael Acmamenara 47 (abt 1863) IT
- married 25 yrs (abt 1885)
- immig 1898 Al
Wife Rosa Acmamenara 44 (abt 1866) IT
- 10 children born/living
- immig 1899
Son John Acmamenara 14 (abt 1896) IT
- immig 1899
Daughter Josephine Acmamenara 10 (abt 1900) NY
Daughter Frances Acmamenara 7 (abt 1903) CT
Son Michael Acmamenara 5 (abt 1905) CT
Son Eddie Acmamenara 4 (abt 1906) CT
Daughter Rosa Acmamenara 10/12 (abt 1909) CT

Son in law Vincenzo Milo 24 (abt 1886) IT
Daughter Sarah Milo 16 (abt 1894) IT

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Re: Seminara - Sicily

Postby MysteryMike » 12 Mar 2008, 15:29

Another awesome find... you're on a roll... I passed right by that one...

Okay, now it lists Michael immigrating in 1898....

Mike

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Re: Seminara - Sicily

Postby Biff83 » 12 Mar 2008, 16:49

Possible WWI Draft Reg Card for Ignazio
Name: Egnizia Seminara
City: Thompsonville
County: Hartford
State: Connecticut
Birth Date: 15 Mar 1885
Nearest relaive: Ledicia (Letizia?) Seminara
Employer: B. H. Carpet Company--check occupations of family members on Valarie's CT census finds.

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Re: Seminara - Sicily

Postby vj » 12 Mar 2008, 17:01

Hey Biff :D !
It appears Ignazio started his naturalization process in CT in 1918

naturalization index card
Publication Number: M1164
Publication Title: Index to the Naturalization Petitions of the United States
District Court for the Eastern District of New York, 1865-1957
Publisher: NARA
Date Range: Nov 1925-Dec 1957
State: New York
Court: US District Court, Brooklyn, N.Y.
Admission Year: 1926
Immigrant Full Name: SEMINARA, Ignazio
Age: 41 (abt 1885)

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Re: Seminara - Sicily

Postby vj » 12 Mar 2008, 17:39

Note:
Civil Records for Alimena are available to order
on microfilm from your local Family History Center:

Family History Library

Topic
Italy, Palermo, Alimena - Civil registration

Titles
Registri dello stato civile, 1820-1910 Alimena (Palermo).
Ufficio dello stato civile

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Re: Seminara - Sicily

Postby deejasmine » 12 Mar 2008, 17:48

First of all - THANK YOU!! You have all accomplished more in hours than I have been able to accomplish in 6 years of dabbling at this research! What you were able to unearth is amazing and I have to confess has made me tear up for all of your help!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Finding the manifest under her maiden name.. natralization papers.. the 1910 Census with their names spelled incorrectly.. I would never have found this information! Words can't express what I am feeling right this moment!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Okay - but back to the information....

Rosa (assuming she went full term in her pregnancies) was three months pregnant when she arrived in the US (Sept 1899) with her 6th child (out of 11 total) being born in March 1900. So Michele must (I hope was) in Italy in June of 1899, and Ignazio was coming over to see his father in August... how long would this trip have taken on this ship across the ocean in 1899?

Thank you all again for your assistance on this research - you're all the best!
~Denise

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Re: Seminara - Sicily

Postby deejasmine » 12 Mar 2008, 18:01

OOPS! I hadn't been able to see the first manifest for Ignazio - that was March 13th 1899 and he was coming to his father...

Let's hope the March birth in 1900 wasn't full term - I really don't want to be the bearer of that news to the family!! Yikes that's only 6 months of pregnancy IF she conceived when she reached NY!!
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Re: Seminara - Sicily

Postby MysteryMike » 12 Mar 2008, 18:20

I believe it took about 20+ days to make the trip....

Michael could have surely made the trip back in the Spring.... maybe to prepare the family for the journey and tie up any loose ends in his native country...

Nothing is beyond possibility...

Mike


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