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Chiappano Family information

Postby jamiestew » 14 Mar 2008, 16:29

Hello everyone,
I am so excited to find this website. I have been researching my family for over a year now, but to actually have so much knowledge about Italy at my fingertips is quite exciting. I have alot of information about my great grandpa..his paper trail is well documented. But I hit a dead end on my great grandma Laura Chiappano. She was Married to my great grandpa for many years they had four children Ernest, Alfred, Mario, and Gloria. His name was CArlo (Charles) Icardi. They lived in Alameda County California. He was born in Asti, Montegro Asti Italy in Jan. 1889. With all this info how come I can find more about her???

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Re: Chiappano Family information

Postby vj » 14 Mar 2008, 17:06

Hi and welcome to the forum :D !
For a start (so we don't duplicate),
is this your family on ancestry.com?
http://trees.ancestry.com/pt/person.asp ... id=1340091
Thanks! Valarie

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Re: Chiappano Family information

Postby vj » 14 Mar 2008, 17:25

Do these census records look correct?
May help locate ship manifests (abt 1913)
- should have Laura's town in Italy on hers
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1920 census
Home in 1920:
3561 Custer Street, owns
Oakland, Alameda, California
Head Carlos Scorgie (Icardi) 26 (abt 1894) IT
- immig 1913, Pa (1st papers)
- locksmith
Wife Laura 26 (abt 1894) IT
- immig 1913
Son Ernest 4 (abt 1916) CA
Son Edward 1 1/12 (abt 1918) CA
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1930 census
Home in 1930:
1434 66th Street, owns
Berkeley, Alameda, California
Head Charles Seardi (Icardi) 37 (abt 1893) IT
- married age 23 (abt 1915-6)
- unknown immig, Na
- ironworker
Wife Lura 39 (abt 1891) IT
- married age 25
- unknown immig
Son Ernest 14 (abt 1916) CA
Son Alfred 7 (abt 1923) CA
Son Mario 4 11/12 (abt 1925) CA

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Re: Chiappano Family information

Postby vj » 14 Mar 2008, 18:24

Carlo's & brother Ernest’s 1910 manifest
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1910 page 1[/url]
page 2

10 Dec 1910 SS La Lorraine, Le Havre to NY
Lines 9 & 10

Last residence Montegrosso
Destination San Francisco
Born in Montegrosso

Ernesto (Scardi) Icardi 28 (abt 1882)
- married
Carlo (Scardi) Icardi 18 (abt 1892)
- single
- locksmith
- 1st trip

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Re: Chiappano Family information

Postby jamiestew » 14 Mar 2008, 19:09

Hello,
I hope I am replying correctly, this is new to me. Thank-you all so much for help.
You have shown me more than I have been able to find in a year. Yes Valerie that is my work so far.
And yes that is the Census thank-you so much for the attachment.
I know my grandfather had a brother named Angelo...but Im not sure about Ernesto. Wow keep it coming this is great, I think I will be able to
fill in some wholes with this info. Thanks so, so much.
I did find my great, great grandma and grandpa Antonio Icardi, and Constantina Terrasco on Family search. I would love to keep going but I have hit a dead end there as well. Would it help to order Laura Icardis SS application, to find out exactly where in Italy she was from and when she married Carlo..or Charles as we knew him..

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Re: Chiappano Family information

Postby vj » 14 Mar 2008, 19:19

Hello!
Yes, you're doing great :D !
Finding Laura's manifest has been a real challenge.
Her SS Application may very well have her place of birth
(which could also help locate her manifest).
Do you know if they were married in Italy or CA?
Thanks!
Valarie

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Re: Chiappano Family information

Postby Biff83 » 14 Mar 2008, 19:30

Angelo Icardi 1911 manifest, line 4
Vessel: Rochambeau
Arrival: New York 14 Oct 1911
Age: 22
Last residence and place of birth: Montegrasso
Nearest relative in Italy: sister Teresa? Icardi
Destination San Francisco to join brother Ernesto at 726 Union St
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Re: Chiappano Family information

Postby jamiestew » 14 Mar 2008, 19:42

Hello Valerie,
I dont know when or where they were married. That is where I begin to loose her. He was so easy and left paper trails everywhere. I do see that they had a son Edward that was on one census at the age of 1 1/2 and I know he died. I dont know how. Their son MArio had down syndrome and lived wuite a long time for a person with such a disability I think he was in his 50's when he passed away. I would be interested to know how Eddie died, any suggestions?? I think I will go ahead and order Lauras SS application. Is that what you suggest??

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Re: Chiappano Family information

Postby vj » 14 Mar 2008, 19:49

The SS Application can be pricey...
Maybe we can find that mainfest?

Perhaps ordering a few vital records from CA
may be less expensive?
CA Vital Records

If they were married in CA, you may be able to locate
the record in Alameda County or San Francisco.
It may have her parents names on it.

Valarie

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Re: Chiappano Family information

Postby MysteryMike » 14 Mar 2008, 19:55

California Birth Index, 1905-1995

Name: Alfred Icardi
Birth Date: 5 Nov 1922
Gender: Male
Mother's Maiden Name: Chiappan
Birth County: Alameda

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Re: Chiappano Family information

Postby MysteryMike » 14 Mar 2008, 19:55

California Birth Index, 1905-1995

Name: Edie T Icardi
Birth Date: 25 Nov 1918
Gender: Male
Mother's Maiden Name: Chiappan
Birth County: Alameda

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Re: Chiappano Family information

Postby MysteryMike » 14 Mar 2008, 19:57

California Death Index, 1940-1997

Name: Alfred Ernest Icardi
Social Security #: 569209592
Sex: MALE
Birth Date: 5 Nov 1922
Birthplace: California
Death Date: 20 Apr 1994
Death Place: Contra Costa
Mother's Maiden Name: Chiappano


California Death Index, 1940-1997
Name: Ernest Angelo Icardi
Social Security #: 559097868
Sex: MALE
Birth Date: 28 Dec 1915
Birthplace: California
Death Date: 16 Oct 1996
Death Place: El Dorado
Mother's Maiden Name: Chiappano

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Re: Chiappano Family information

Postby pink67 » 14 Mar 2008, 19:58

Hi all!

don't know if can be something but I found an arrival manifest about Adele Chiappano from Varzi (Pavia Province - Lombardia Region) joining her sister Laura Chiappano in California), here is :

New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957
about Adele Chiappano
Name: Adele Chiappano
Arrival Date: 27 Oct 1920
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1893
Age: 27
Gender: Female
Port of Departure: Genoa, Italy
Ethnicity/Race­/Nationality: Italian (North) (Italian)
Ship Name: Giuseppe Verdi
Search Ship Database: Search the Giuseppe Verdi in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Nativity: Italy
Line: 17
Microfilm Serial: T715
Microfilm Roll: T715_2862
Birth Location: Italy
Birth Location Other: varzi
Page Number: 26

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However, form the site http://italia.indettaglio.it/eng/cognomi/cognomi.html

it seems the last name Chiappano is present right in Varzi mostly...

Laura :D

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Re: Chiappano Family information

Postby vj » 14 Mar 2008, 19:59

Hey Biff!
Nice manifest.

Hey Mike!
It appears the name Chiappano is pretty consistent
in the CA records.
Can't find a manifest or family in California, very odd.

Thanks Valarie

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Re: Chiappano Family information

Postby jamiestew » 14 Mar 2008, 20:01

Thanks Mystery Mike....thats them. My Grandpa Al (Alfred Ernest) I see now why my grandpas middle name was Ernest and he also had a brother named Ernest..because that was the name of my great grandpas oldest brother...


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