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Looking for Place of Birth

Postby ALP70 » 23 Apr 2008, 23:47

Looking for the place, as in comune, of birth for a Rosa or Rosina Terranella from Sicily, most likely in the Palermo province.

Parents are Francesco and Giovanna (or Giovanina) Gambina (or Gambino), birth date might be 6/18/1878.

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Re: Looking for Place of Birth

Postby TonyDiNobile » 24 Apr 2008, 07:37

I would like to help....Do you know when she came over from Sicily ?....She might be listed in Ellis Island Records....I did a quick search and found a Campofelice di Roccella....It is a commune in the province of Palermo....I found a decent amount of people with the surname Terranella from that town....

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Re: Looking for Place of Birth

Postby ALP70 » 24 Apr 2008, 13:40

Sorry I am not sure when she came over. It would have be prior to 1897 I believe, since she married in NYC in July of that year.

The closest I have found on the Ellis Island and Castle Garden websites is a Rosa Terranella arriving in NY 5/11/1896 on the Alsatia. But the DOB is off, and there's no last residence or port of departure listed.

Also, in the first post I meant aka "Giovannia" not Giovanina.

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Re: Looking for Place of Birth

Postby suanj » 24 Apr 2008, 14:07

Hi, but Rosa or Rosina: the birthsurname was Terranella or Gambino???
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Re: Looking for Place of Birth

Postby vj » 24 Apr 2008, 14:17

This may help?
If this is the correct marriage record…
Do you have a copy? It may have Rosa’s birth location.
Thanks! Valarie

Surname/Given Name/Month of Marriage/Day of Marriage/
Year of Marriage/County/Certificate Number


Terranella Rosa Jul 15 1897 Manhattan 11383
Laporta Leonardo Jul 15 1897 Manhattan 11383

NYC Bride Index ????-1937
Ordering NYC Vital Records
New York City Archives

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Re: Looking for Place of Birth

Postby suanj » 24 Apr 2008, 14:18

1910 United States Federal Census
about Rosie Laporta
Name: Rosie Laporta
Age in 1910: 34
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1876
Birthplace: Italy
Relation to Head of House: Wife
Father's Birth Place: Italy
Mother's Birth Place: Italy
Spouse's Name: Leo
Home in 1910: Manhattan Ward 17, New York, New York
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Gender: Female
Year of Immigration: 1895
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Leo Laporta 37
Rosie Laporta 34
Rosario Laporta 12
Mary Laporta 10
Frank Laporta 8
Joseph Laporta 6
Peter Laporta 4
Louis Laporta 2
Rosie immigration year: 1895... bye, suanj
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Re: Looking for Place of Birth

Postby vj » 24 Apr 2008, 14:23

Hey suanj :D
Here's a link to your great census find.
Valarie

1910 census
page 2

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Re: Looking for Place of Birth

Postby suanj » 24 Apr 2008, 14:24

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Re: Looking for Place of Birth

Postby vj » 24 Apr 2008, 14:49

The manifest you mentioned
1896

Traveling with 2 other Terranella’s

Name: Rosá Lerranella
Arrival Date: 11 May 1896
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1870
Age: 26
Gender: Female
Port of Departure: Naples, Italy
Ethnicity/Race­/Nationality: Italian
Ship Name: Alsatia

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Re: Looking for Place of Birth

Postby ALP70 » 24 Apr 2008, 15:00

Hi I have all the census records for her, and they are very unreliable.

Each census record from 1900-1930 has different dates for immigration to the US and has many many errors in other entries, so I don't think they are reliable.

The manifest doesn't mention last residence.

I have all her other records including marriage which does not list a birth place other than "Italy."

Thanks though to everyone; maybe I should just start writing a letter to the Archivio di Stato in Palermo?

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Re: Looking for Place of Birth

Postby TonyDiNobile » 24 Apr 2008, 17:48

I went ahead and search both the Terranella & Gambino surnames at Ellis Island....some of the towns that overlap both surnames are Bagheria , Campofelice di Fitalia and Campofelice di Roccella....All are locate close to Palermo....I also found a Francesco Gambino age 38 arriving on 11/28/1897 , last residence(departure point ?) Palermo and a Giovanna Gambino age 27 , arriving on 5/6/1898 , last residence(departure point ?) Vicari which is also close to Palermo....Depending on the DOB of Rosa Terranella(Gambino) might this be her parents ?....

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Re: Looking for Place of Birth

Postby ALP70 » 24 Apr 2008, 17:51

The last name is Terranella; Gambino is the maiden name of Rosa'a mother.
Thanks for researching that though; the people mentioned are too young to be her parents.

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Re: Looking for Place of Birth

Postby TonyDiNobile » 24 Apr 2008, 18:07

When I search Terranella , those towns that I listed still appear in the records , so that might be the place to start...The towns (like my on ancestorial town may have a website and contact information....Also , people married very young back than and sometimes the husband might be significantly older than his wife....20yr. differences were not uncommon....Considering that she was born in or around 1878 , it is possible that both parents or at least Giovanna might have been a teen bride....

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Re: Looking for Place of Birth

Postby ALP70 » 24 Apr 2008, 18:44

Ok thanks I will contact those towns. The Giovanna above would still have been far too young to have had Rosa, (according to the dates she would have had to had Rosa as a 6 year old!). Also, Francesco's last name was Terranella not Gambino.

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Re: Looking for Place of Birth

Postby TonyDiNobile » 24 Apr 2008, 19:04

Ok I found 2 entries for a Francesco Terranella....
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1913 age 33 from Campofelice ,Sicily

1921 age 41 from Mezzaniso , Sicily
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This may be the same person arriving twice and having changed residences in Sicily....


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