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A real challenge

Postby graphei » 23 May 2008, 10:05

Hello everyone,

My grandmother passed away last year and I've started to realize how much I'm forgetting about my ancestors since she has passed. I don't want to forget them, but it's almost impossible to find them. Her maiden name was de'Medici, and while searching for her father, I've had ZERO luck in finding any record of him. He was an immigrant from Florence, Italy (via MA) and I cannot find military records (fought in WWI), marriage records, or even a death/burial record of him online ANYWHERE to begin my search.

I know the name is common, which is why I'm puzzled why I cannot find him at all! I'm sure you can get who comes up when I google the last name, which isn't helpful at all.

So, if any of you have ideas for this beast of a family tree, I'd be grateful for the help.

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Re: A real challenge

Postby Essgee » 23 May 2008, 12:09

Need a bit more information.

First name of your great grandfather? Name of his wife, first and maiden? Where did they live in the US or Canada...state and town? When was your grandmother born? Where? What was her first name?

If we can locate them in the census or on a passenger record, it will help.

The spelling de'Medici may be the problem. Could be De Medici or Di Medici or even some other variation. No doubt, the spelling is way off in the records.

So let's have a bit more info and everyone will check and see what they can find!

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Re: A real challenge

Postby graphei » 23 May 2008, 13:11

The name is what is really giving me a hard time. It's spelled 'de Medici' on all of my grandmother's and great-uncle's official paperwork (birth, death, social, etc.), so I'm really stumped.


My grandmother:
Lucy Angela Marra (nee de Medici)
born: 14 July 1929 in Mechanicville, NY
dead: 2 Feb 2007
-Married Daniel D. Marra in May 1950 (b. 20 Nov 1919 - d. Aug 1976)

Her brother:
Armand Louis de Medici (no wife or children)
born: 4 Dec 1926 in Mechanicville, NY
dead: 18 Oct 2004
-Was also in the Army.

Their father/ my great-grandfather:
Peter Anthony de Medici
born: 23 Feb 1887 in Florence, Italy
dead: ?? will ask mom when I speak to her
He told my grandmother he came over when he was 16 and went through Massachusetts instead of Ellis Island and lived in Barre, VT for awhile before settling in Mechanicville, NY. He was in the US Army during WWI stationed in France.

Their mother/ my great-grandmother:
Helen de Medici (nee Guilianelli)
- born in the US, most likely NY state.

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Re: A real challenge

Postby vj » 23 May 2008, 13:19

Great advice from essgee!
Thank you for the additional information.
We'll see what we can do to get you going on your de'Medici's.
Valarie

A start from ancestry.com (subscription site)

possible 1917 WWI Draft Registration Card
signed: Peter De Medici

possible 1930 census
- immig 1903 or 1907?

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Re: A real challenge

Postby graphei » 23 May 2008, 14:00

That's absolutely amazing. That's them alright. I'm trying to piece together the town name on his draft card and google the heck out of it. Methinks, bisnonno was telling stories about where he was from ;)

One quick question- does capitalization of the 'de' matter in an online search? On their birth certificates and death certificates, it's 'de' for all of them, but on these records it's 'De'.

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Re: A real challenge

Postby Biff83 » 23 May 2008, 14:27

He lived in Mechanicville and was employed as a common laborer by the US Army Quartermaster at Plattsburgh Barracks.

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Re: A real challenge

Postby graphei » 23 May 2008, 14:30

I meant the town in Italy :)

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Re: A real challenge

Postby Biff83 » 23 May 2008, 14:33

Sorry about that.

A possibiity:

Cervinara, province: Avellino - region: Campania

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Re: A real challenge

Postby graphei » 23 May 2008, 14:39

It's a good thing my grandmother is dead because if she found out her father had lied to her, she'd probably die on the spot.

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Re: A real challenge

Postby vj » 23 May 2008, 14:47

One quick question- does capitalization of the 'de' matter in an online search?


Capitalization shouldn’t matter, but you may want to try other variations:
As essgee noted, just a few possibilities:

De Medici
Demedici
Di Medici
Dimedici
D Medici
Dmedici

(on google, maybe just ‘+medici’)

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Re: A real challenge

Postby vj » 23 May 2008, 14:53

graphei wrote:It's a good thing my grandmother is dead because if she found out her father had lied to her


Not necessarily, since the card wasn't filled out by Pietro,
as Biff pointed out, the town may have been sounded out
or spelled incorrectly.

Since Florence is also a province, there are several towns that may fit...

"The Province of Florence (in Italian: "Provincia di Firenze") is a province in the Tuscany region of Italy"

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Re: A real challenge

Postby misbris » 23 May 2008, 15:30

Hi, :lol:

Did anyone notice on that possible 1930 census there is a family above with the name Guilianella. Could that possibly be Helen's family?? :o

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Re: A real challenge

Postby misbris » 23 May 2008, 15:40

Lots of possibilities for that town. Do we have a manifest yet? I don't have access to Boston records. :cry:

http://www.italyworldclub.com/italian_f ... rr-cev.htm

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Re: A real challenge

Postby vj » 23 May 2008, 15:41

Hey mj :D - neat catch on the 1930 census!

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Re: A real challenge

Postby vj » 23 May 2008, 15:44

misbris wrote:Lots of possibilities for that town. Do we have a manifest yet? I don't have access to Boston records. :cry:

http://www.italyworldclub.com/italian_f ... rr-cev.htm


No luck on Boston, tried
born 1887 +/-2 yrs
Pietro no last name
De Medici, Medici no first name


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