Garibaldi, Genotti & Vottero Research

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Garibaldi, Genotti & Vottero Research

Postby MaryGenottiCollins » 02 Jun 2008, 01:23

Hi,

Just rediscovered this site and renewing my interest in finding more info about my Italian Grandfather Genotti.

He immigrated from Mezzenile, Torino, Italy on December 18, 1909. Born approx May 23 1886.

I am currently trying to find out if another "John Genotti" found in the NY Census of 1920 is him or is simply someone else with the same name, similar birth date etc. It shows him married to someone other than my grandmother w/other children.

I never met him as he died before my birth so am interested in finding out any information that I can.

Thanks!!
Mary Genotti-Collins

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Genotti, Garibaldi, Vottero

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Re: Garibaldi, Genotti & Vottero Research

Postby juanminbar » 02 Jun 2008, 03:09

mary, ellis island list four genotti's. one was giovanni, john, arriving the year 1909. his final destination was shamokin, pa.

it is possible that he later migrated to new york and is shown in the 1920 census.

good luck, j

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Re: Garibaldi, Genotti & Vottero Research

Postby juanminbar » 02 Jun 2008, 03:24

mary, wwll draft registrationshows john living in cambria pa.....see below.

U.S. World War II Draft Registration Cards, 1942
about John Castantine Genotti
Name: John Castantine Genotti
Birth Date: 22 Jun 1886
RESIDENCE: Cambria, Pennsylvania
Birth: Italy
Roll: WW2_2240251

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Re: Garibaldi, Genotti & Vottero Research

Postby suanj » 02 Jun 2008, 05:38

MaryGenottiCollins wrote:Hi,

Just rediscovered this site and renewing my interest in finding more info about my Italian Grandfather Genotti.

He immigrated from Mezzenile, Torino, Italy on December 18, 1909. Born approx May 23 1886.

I am currently trying to find out if another "John Genotti" found in the NY Census of 1920 is him or is simply someone else with the same name, similar birth date etc. It shows him married to someone other than my grandmother w/other children.

I never met him as he died before my birth so am interested in finding out any information that I can.

Thanks!!

I believe that this is your ancestor in 1910 census:
(also if the surname is wrong I believe right record)
1910 United States Federal Census
about Geovanni Grouoff
Name: Geovanni Grouoff
[Giovanni Gionoff]
Age in 1910: 24
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1886
Birthplace: Italy
Relation to Head of House: Boarder
Father's Birth Place: Italy
Mother's Birth Place: Italy
Home in 1910: Shamokin Ward 1, Northumberland, Pennsylvania
Marital Status: Single
Race: White
Gender: Male
Year of Immigration: 1909
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Sylvesta Leonardi 60
Louisa Leonardi 57
Joseph Leonardi 26
August Leonardi 19
Emanuel Leonardi 15
Richard Leonardi 31
Tressa H Leonardi 30
Domenick Leonardi 4
Sylvester Leonardi 1 6/12
Geovanni Geniova 25
Geovanni Grouoff 24
Guiseppi Dortesloff 24
Fortunato Malchavaoni 23
Leomerdi Celeste 45

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Re: Garibaldi, Genotti & Vottero Research

Postby MaryGenottiCollins » 02 Jun 2008, 09:11

Wow! Thank you all for your responses. I'm going to look into the 1910 census to see if this is him. Possibly they mispelled the name.

I knew about the wwii regsitration for draft.

I'm curious if the 1920 is him as well. This shows someone OTHER THAN my grandmother......"if" he had two families, I would not be surprised at all.

Thanks again for the info....
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Genotti, Garibaldi, Vottero



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Re: Garibaldi, Genotti & Vottero Research

Postby MaryGenottiCollins » 02 Jun 2008, 09:22

Just looked at the census again and if you look at the one listing....it could be translated as "Gionott" which if you add an italian accent to "Genotti" you may very well translate as such!

This is a real find, thank you so much!

Now, onto the next challenge, there is a story that he went to jail for making moonshine, I don't think this is true...or I've found no proof of it. I think "IF" he had two families (my father's mother and siblings in WV) and the other family in NY....he may have gone to be w/family in NY and not really gone to jail after all.
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Re: Garibaldi, Genotti & Vottero Research

Postby juanminbar » 02 Jun 2008, 13:49

if in fact he did go to jail for ''moonshine'' you may locate him in a census incarcerated at the EASTERN STATE PENITENTERY , PHILA.,PENNA.

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Re: Garibaldi, Genotti & Vottero Research

Postby MaryGenottiCollins » 02 Jun 2008, 14:06

Where can I find the census for the prison?

Thanks!!
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Re: Garibaldi, Genotti & Vottero Research

Postby juanminbar » 02 Jun 2008, 19:44

the census for the prison falls under the regular census. when you locate his name then there will a list of inmates....IF.... he was sent to that prison. the mystery continues.

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Re: Garibaldi, Genotti & Vottero Research

Postby Biff83 » 03 Jun 2008, 00:25

Hi Mary,

Not sure if you've seen these West Virginia records.

Ethel Garibaldi Genotti Death Certificate

George Joseph Genotti Marriage License Application right hand image

Above records located here:
http://www.wvculture.org/vrr/va_select.aspx

Note that all record types are not available for all years.

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Re: Garibaldi, Genotti & Vottero Research

Postby vj » 03 Jun 2008, 01:28

Biff83 wrote:Hi Mary,

Not sure if you've seen these West Virginia records.

Ethel Garibaldi Genotti Death Certificate

George Joseph Genotti Marriage License Application right hand image

Above records located here:
http://www.wvculture.org/vrr/va_select.aspx

Note that all record types are not available for all years.

Biff


Hey Biff & all!
This may help, Mary's family website from 2000
http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/us ... -0052.html

Mary, a couple of questions for you
- Are some of the children in an orphanage in Ohio County, WV in 1930?
- In 1930, John is a widower living in Cambria County PA w/o his children?

Thanks! Valarie

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Re: Garibaldi, Genotti & Vottero Research

Postby vj » 03 Jun 2008, 01:45

possible 1920 census
Home in 1920:
401 E Street Allentown, rents
Eccles, Raleigh, West Virginia

Head John C Jennette 33, abt 1887 IT
- immig 1909, Na 1919
- miner- pick, coal mining
Wife Ethel G Jennette 24, abt 1896 VA
Son Geo E Jennette 2 3/12, abt 1917 WV

1918 WWI Draft Registration Card
John Jeanette , signed? John Janette/i
Eccles, Raleigh, WV
23 May 1886 in Italy
Non-declarant
Miner, New River Collieries Co
Mrs Ethel Jeanette

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Re: Garibaldi, Genotti & Vottero Research

Postby MaryGenottiCollins » 03 Jun 2008, 10:11

I don't know how you guys are finding all this stuff! (here I thought I knew what I was doing!!! :oops: )

Thanks for your help!!!!

Yes, my grandmother died when my father (George) was around 9. John (grandfather) put them all in an orphanage............

This is amazing, thanks guys!! :)
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Genotti, Garibaldi, Vottero



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Re: Garibaldi, Genotti & Vottero Research

Postby MaryGenottiCollins » 03 Jun 2008, 13:48

This census is my grandfather, grandmother and father. His name was spelled correctly in a lot of previous things, and he tried to change the spelling later on. Not sure why unless he was hiding from someone or something.

Very interesting! I'll print this and send to my father.

Thanks so much----he's 90 and not doing so well.
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Genotti, Garibaldi, Vottero



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Re: Garibaldi, Genotti & Vottero Research

Postby vj » 03 Jun 2008, 14:19

Mary,
We’re always happy to help!
It's great that we could find these for you & your father

Giovanni may have had 'help' spelling his name if someone 'sounded it
out' for him. Perhaps where he was employed?
Later he corrected it to the original spelling on the 1942 WWII Card
that Juan found: 1942 WWII Draft Registration Card
Note:
On the 1910 census that suanj found, Giovanni is listed
as not being able to read or write
1910 census
On the 1920 census he is listed as being able to read & write

The census & military records are from ancestry.com
1930 census in case you don’t already have it

Home in 1930:
Wheeling, Ohio, West Virginia

St John’s
St John’s Orphanage for Boys
Key Ave

Name: George Genotti
Age: 12
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1918
Birthplace: West Virginia

Name: Edward Genotti
Age: 6
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1924
Birthplace: West Virginia

St Vincent’s
St Vincent’s Orphanage
98 Marshall Ave

Name: Opal Genatte
Age: 8
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1922
Birthplace: West Virginia
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1930 census
Home in 1930:
Barr, Cambria, Pennsylvania

Head Jake Lombardy 36
Wife Orpha Lombardy 32
Daughter Loreta Lombardy 7
Son Amoreko Lombardy 5
Daughter Stella Lombardy 3 8/12

Boarders
Adams Voopoez 39
John Genotte 44, abt 1886 IT
- widower
- immig 1909, Na
- miner, coal mine
- able to read/write
Tony Tellor 42


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