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Postby Eleven » 05 Jun 2008, 18:59

For 15 years, I have been trying to find the ship passenger record for my husbands grandmother. I am beginning to think she swam here.

My big problem is I dont have an accurate surname for her. But, I have enough clues and have done enough searches that if she was there, I would have found her.

About the surname..any records I was able to find for her children, have something different on them. My mother in laws birth record, was typed out by someone..and the surname they transposed..isnt even italian.

Maybe someone else from here can take a shot at this. Maybe I am missing something..or just plain ran out of luck.

Her name is:

Maria Vitra (or Vitro, vitre, veltro, veltra) along those lines.

She was born in 1873

She would have come here in 1894 or possibly the first month of 1895. Not after, because she had a child born here in october of that year. That would make her about 21 years old when she arrived.

She traveled with her small son, Giuseppe D'Alessandro. He was born in 1892 so that would make him about 2-3 years old.

I have searched for him also. I even used figlio with Giuseppe..in case thats how it was listed.

They are from Paduli, Benevento, although for that time period, it will just say Italy on the manifest.

I believe besides the ellis island site, I tried castle gardens, boston and PA ports (not really sure when I did the last two, tho...but, I believe I did.) I also searched Italians to America.

(I swear I think she swam.)

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Postby mjones » 07 Jun 2008, 00:31

Here is a possible:

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April 20, 1894
Maria Vitaro 20
Lorenzo Vitaro 16 brother
Enrico Vitaro 13 brother
Francesco Vitaro 10 brother
Giuseppe Vitaro 7 brother

What do you think? Possible?

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Postby Eleven » 07 Jun 2008, 00:51

Thanks for giving this a shot. I am afraid that isnt her. It would only be her and her 2 year old child, Giuseppe. No other family came with her.

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Postby nuccia » 07 Jun 2008, 05:30

How about this one?

I am never bored but I hate giving up...

Hows this one?


New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957
about Maria Velter
Name: Maria Velter
Arrival Date: 3 Jul 1898
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1868
Age: 30
Gender: Female
Port of Departure: Naples, Italy
Ethnicity/Race-
/Nationality: Italian
Ship Name: Trojan Prince
Search Ship Database: Search the Trojan Prince in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Line: 22
Microfilm Serial: 15
Microfilm Roll: T715_25
Page Number: 145

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Postby Eleven » 07 Jun 2008, 14:04

No...this is not her. Thank you so much for trying.

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Postby Essgee » 08 Jun 2008, 16:13

Could you please tell us where in America she lived in 1900 and the full name of her husband?

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Postby Eleven » 09 Jun 2008, 00:27

She lived in a town called Old boston settlement, then. Its called Avoca, now. Its in Pennsylvania.

The husbands name was vincenzo...later he changed that to James. He is listed as James on his census records...and Vincenzo on naturalization records.

I have had all 4 of their census records for years. I found them, even tho there were terrible misspellings on some. There is no info on her surname on any of them...and I believe some say 1895 as when she came and others say 1894.

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Postby mjones » 09 Jun 2008, 00:36

Is this your family?

WWI Draft Record:
Giuseppe D'Alessandro
(b) 10 Sep 1892
Paduli Campania Italy
Mine Worker
Wife and one child
Hillside Coal & Iron Co.
Luzerne County, PA


1910 Census
Father: Vincent (Vincenzo) (b) 1867 (imm)1893
Mother: Mary (Maria) (b) 1872 (imm)1895
Jenkins, Luzerne, PA

Of course the children are also listed but I wanted to get your input on the birth years and immigration years of Vincenzo and Maria.

Are the above years correct?

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Postby Eleven » 09 Jun 2008, 00:42

That looks like the son. The one that came here with her. I added a bit to my above post. I have the 4 census. The first two, clearly state 1895 as the immigration date. The next two..look more like 1894. They are not as clear as the first two.

She had a child born here, oct 1895. If she came that year, it had to have been in january.

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Postby mjones » 09 Jun 2008, 00:44

1900 Boston, Luzerne, Pennsylvania

Name Age
James Dolsanda 30
Mary Dolsanda 27
Joseph Dolsanda 8
Domnick Dolsanda 4
Mary Dolsanda 8.12
Samaul Petsag 26
Joseph Nera 26

YOURS??

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Postby Eleven » 09 Jun 2008, 00:45

Me again..His birth is correct.

For Maria, I have april 19, 1873 as her birth.

For Vincenzo, I have dec 6 1872

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Postby Eleven » 09 Jun 2008, 00:47

Thats his census...bad spelling, but its them.

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Postby Essgee » 09 Jun 2008, 17:34

He arrived in 1893. She would have had to arrive by Dec of 1894. So most likely 1893/94 arrival.

Have you written to the comune and gotten a copy of the marriage record? It will give you her maiden name...the name she travelled with and may help identify the name. What information do you have that listed her maiden name? Was it a death certificate, a cemetery record. a family record of some sort?

Did she have an siblings that lived in the same area? Other relatives?

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Postby Biff83 » 09 Jun 2008, 18:08

Giuseppe's brother Dominick's WWI Draft Card?

Name: Domnick Dalasandra
City: Not Stated
County: Luzerne
State: Pennsylvania
Birthplace: Pennsylvania;United States of America
Birth Date: 2 Apr 1896

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Postby Biff83 » 09 Jun 2008, 18:43

Giuseppe's WWI Draft card states he is a naturalized citizen. If he did naturalize after 1906, footnote.com should have his naturalization docs (Middle District of Pennsylvania). The docs might contain information relative to his date of immigration and the vessel on which he sailed.

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