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Please help me find Derosse/dirosse

Postby tvelez » 21 Jun 2008, 01:18

There are so many different ways this name cam be spelled and so many names it could have originated from! This is what i have:

Eleanor Deross is my ggrandma, daughter of: William DeRosse (Italy 1886) & Nellie (???) Hansen (Norway 1890). I think William is the son of Carmine Dirosse & Maria DiRosse and they all came from italy in 1888, but i cannot find their names on any manifests... Any help is greatly appreciated as i have been stuck for about 6 months! Thanks so much!

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Re: Please help me find Derosse/dirosse

Postby vj » 21 Jun 2008, 14:12

Tina
Welcome to the Forum :D !
We'll be happy to see what we can do to help.
Valarie

For reference:

possible 1910 census
Home in 1910:
599 President Street
Brooklyn Ward 22, Kings, New York
Head Carmine A Dirosse 61 abt 1849 IT
- married 36 yrs, abt 1874
- immig 1886, Na
Wife Maria Dirosse 58 abt 1852 IT
- 9 children born, 3 children living
- immig 1887
Son William Dirosse 24 abt 1886 IT
- married 5 yrs, abt 1905
- immig 1887, Na
- teamster
Son John Dirosse 21 abt 1889 NY
Daughter in law Ellen Dirosse 20 abt 1890
- 2 children
- parents born in Norway
Grandson Carmine Dirosse Jr. 3 abt 1907
Granddaughter Pauline Dirosse 1 6/12 abt 1908

possible 1917-1918 WWI Draft Registration Card
Note: appears two cards were copied together
William Gaetano Dirosse 32
625 President Street
Brooklyn, Kings, NY
Born 2 Mar 1886
Occupation Chauffer
Working for John A Ferro?

possible 1920 census
Home in 1920:
599 President Street
Brooklyn Assembly District 8, Kings, New York
Head Carmen Dirosse 70 abt 1850 IT
- immig 1886, Na 1893
Wife Mary M Dirosse 67 abt 1853 IT
- immig 1887, Na 1893
Son Joseph Dirosse 39 abt 1881 IT
- widower
- immig 1887, Na 1893
Grandson Carmen J Dirosse 11 abt 1909 NY

possible 1920 census
Home in 1920:
625 President Street
Brooklyn Assembly District 8, Kings, New York
William Dirosse 34 abt 1886 IT
- immig 1888, Na 1895
- chauffer, automobile, working on own account
Nellie Dirosse 30 abt 1890 NY
- parents born in Norway
Children born in NY
Carmen Dirosse 13 abt 1907
Pauline Dirosse 11 abt 1909
William M Dirosse 8 abt 1912
Mary Dirosse 6 abt 1914
Elanor Dirosse 4 4/12 abt 1915
Bernard Dirosse 3/12 abt 1919

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Re: Please help me find Derosse/dirosse

Postby tvelez » 21 Jun 2008, 15:15

Thanks so much VJ. I have an ancestry.com account, but i'm still finding it hard to find what i need. I didn't look close enought at the 1910 census that i found- thanks so much for pointing that out to me!! These are the only names that fit the information that i have. I still can't find any records of their immigration. Any ideas? Thanks again!!

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Re: Please help me find Derosse/dirosse

Postby vj » 21 Jun 2008, 15:37

It's possible that sons Joseph (Giuseppe?) & William (Guglielmo?)
arrived with their mother.

If that's what happened, she would probably be traveling under her maiden name.
Her children (there may be more) could be listed as
'figlio' (son) Joseph (Giuseppe?) & figlio William (Guglielmo?)
without any reference to their father's name.

Sometimes searching ancestry with only first names with approximate
birth years and exact location helps.

Have you looked for any of the families records in NYC, they may
contain a few more clues

These may help locate New York City records:
Dr Steve Morse One Step Search Pages for New York
NY Naturalization
NYC Birth Records 1891-1902 requires ancestry.com subscription
NYC Groom Index 1864-1936
NYC Bride Index ????-1937
NYC Death Records 1891-1948


Ordering NYC Vital Records
New York City Archives

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Re: Please help me find Derosse/dirosse

Postby Biff83 » 21 Jun 2008, 15:39

Hello Valarie and Tina,

WWII Draft card for Joseph Dirosse
If this is William's brother Joseph's card (see 1920 census), birthplace is stated as Padula in the province of Salerno in Campania.

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Re: Please help me find Derosse/dirosse

Postby vj » 21 Jun 2008, 15:43

Hey Biff :D !
Neat record.
Valarie

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Re: Please help me find Derosse/dirosse

Postby Biff83 » 21 Jun 2008, 15:45

Interesting 1886 ship manifest for Carmine De Rosa line 264

Name: Carmin De Rosa
Arrival Date: 16 Jul 1886
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1848
Age: 38
Gender: Male
Port of Departure: Mediterranean Ports
Destination: New York
Place of Origin: Padula
Ship Name: Archimede

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Re: Please help me find Derosse/dirosse

Postby vj » 21 Jun 2008, 15:53

Hey Biff
Outstanding connection :D
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