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Mariners

Postby venice » 09 Nov 2008, 21:48

Can anyone please tell me , is it possible to trace a relative through the fishing industry in Italy,approximately 1875?
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Re: Mariners

Postby PeterTimber » 09 Nov 2008, 22:51

we will give it a try if you can give a bit more information, preferably who,what where when and how??? =Peter=
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Re: Mariners

Postby venice » 10 Nov 2008, 04:47

Hi Peter,

I am still trying to trace my great grandfathers family and to date have had no luck in Australia through the archives here. Name Giuseppe Amendola born 1858, so I am assuming that he may have been fishing before he reached Australia in 1888. He was listed as a fisherman here,but I am unable to locate any form of record.I got this information fron the voters list here

Ive taken the earliest possible age as 18 which would mean looking around 1876. Have located the largest population of Amendolas around Napoli and then have looked at Calabria.

Are there any lists kept of fisherman during this time?

If you point me in the right direction I am happy to do the research and emailing.

Once again thank you for your help
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Re: Mariners

Postby PeterTimber » 10 Nov 2008, 05:04

Did you contact the person I referred you to? Her name is Jan Hall, Reference Officer, National Archives of Australia, Adelaide Office. Her telephone number is 1-300 886-881 or 882 and you can e-mail her at ref@naa.gov.au. Her e-mail tome re Giuseppe Amendola is dated 10/16/08 Petertimber@msn.com.

She advised me that she did a preliminary search of their database but did not find any record for Giuseppe Amendola. She addded thsat a more deatiled searcgh will locate information relevant to your inquiry but they need more specific information.

You did not say what your experience was with this information which I provided you in October,2008. Please let me know. =Peter=
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Postby venice » 10 Nov 2008, 20:44

Hi Peter,

yes I did contact tha national archives as you suggested and have given them all the information that I have and am still waiting for them to get back to me .They stated that it can take up to six to eight weeks to compete a search as they have so many people to search for,I was going to contact them again this week and make sure they were still on task.

In the mean time I thought that I may be able to trace him through the fishing industry and have myself looked for Mariners lists in Australia of early settlers.I read an article in one of the genealogy magazines as to how the english kept records of their people in the fishing industry. I tried all the links and lists that I thought he may be on without success.
Do the italian mariners keep historical records of the people that work on the water? The names should be contained on mariners lists in and around Italy-if the records were kept.
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Re: Mariners

Postby venice » 10 Nov 2008, 21:06

Just a small add on Peter, the Mariners were listed under lifeboats as they also did the rescues on the water.E.G www.calister-lifeboat.org.uk/


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Re: Mariners

Postby PeterTimber » 10 Nov 2008, 23:31

Please keepme posted. =Peter=
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Re: Mariners

Postby venice » 20 Nov 2008, 02:12

Peter,

have you seen this for tracing italian mariners http://www.mun.ca/mha/index.phpmariners


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Postby PeterTimber » 20 Nov 2008, 04:37

Dear Venice thanks for the website. I am an old Newfie screech drinker from my expeditions up to Labrador and the website brought back many memories. Thank you. =Peter=
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Postby venice » 20 Nov 2008, 09:11

Excuse my ignorance,whats a newfie?Venice
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Re: Mariners

Postby PeterTimber » 20 Nov 2008, 14:21

Someone from New Foundland off the coast of Canada and once geologically a part of Scotland that broke off and drifted over as it were. It was populated by french,portuguese, irish and english fishermen for the COD fish trade (Baccala!) but as time went on many irish fleeing the famine immigrated to the Island and was independent until the 1920's when it went broke and joined Canada. Their famous product aside from Fish is Screech which is a 150+ proof booze. =Peter=
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Re: Mariners

Postby venice » 20 Nov 2008, 20:51

You will be pleased to hear that I managed to find some news of my ggf down in Port Hastings in Victoria,where he used to fish.I traced him through the historical society of Port Hastings as it was one of the main fishing ports down there.He has been included in quite a few books of the historical fisherman in this area.I am hoping that when the books arrive they may give me a clue as to which part of Italy he came from as I am still waiting to hear from the national archives,newsdue28/11.

Tragically he lost his oldest son back to the sea,when he drowned trying to save his mate who had fallen overboard.Regards V
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Postby PeterTimber » 20 Nov 2008, 22:00

Thank you ever so much for keeping me posted. Am very glad that he was so honored. Please let us know and as soon as you the town of origin we will take off! Perhaps if you can get them to move it they might be so inclined. =Peter=
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Postby venice » 21 Nov 2008, 21:05

Good news Peter
Archives have located the naturalisation record.Bad news I have to wait another two weeks to pay and get the copy.Sent it off last night.Regards Venice
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Postby PeterTimber » 22 Nov 2008, 03:40

Give yourself a raise in the meantime it will make the time pass quickly. =Peter=
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