was it common for first cousins to marry in italy 1900,s

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was it common for first cousins to marry in italy 1900,s

Postby debbie365 » 04 Jul 2010, 20:16

just curious because my grand father married his first cousin
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Re: was it common for first cousins to marry in italy 1900,s

Postby PeterTimber » 04 Jul 2010, 20:49

Your question involves statistics but what you want to know can best be described as "hearsay" There is a website that has more exact data on the subject. In answer to your question First cousin marriages in Italy in the late 1800's were few and far between and represented less than 1% of Marriages in a synopsis of the website www.gutenberg.org/files/29955-h/29955-h.htm

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Re: was it common for first cousins to marry in italy 1900,s

Postby debbie365 » 05 Jul 2010, 18:10

thank you:) iam learning by reading have a great day
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Re: was it common for first cousins to marry in italy 1900,s

Postby PeterTimber » 05 Jul 2010, 21:32

just read the synopsis for the book on google which will give you what you requested. "Frequency of first cousin marriages in Italy". Under Project Gutenberg. =Peter=
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Re: was it common for first cousins to marry in italy 1900,s

Postby spydergirl » 19 Aug 2010, 18:47

debbie365 wrote:just curious because my grand father married his first cousin


My grandparents were first cousins as well. I heard it was common.
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Re: was it common for first cousins to marry in italy 1900,s

Postby PeterTimber » 21 Aug 2010, 14:57

Who is to know...statistics or hearsay?? =Peter=
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Re: was it common for first cousins to marry in italy 1900,s

Postby debbie365 » 22 Aug 2010, 15:08

did they write it in the marriage records that these people were cousins? the italian records? i have read one french record it doesnt say they are first cousins but we know they are.
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Re: was it common for first cousins to marry in italy 1900,s

Postby Italysearcher » 22 Aug 2010, 16:22

The Italian parish records usually say that special permission was obtained. Often because the bride was pregnant. I researched a case where an uncle married his niece and special permission was requested from the Vatican.
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Re: was it common for first cousins to marry in italy 1900,s

Postby debbie365 » 22 Aug 2010, 22:49

wow very interesting. i ordered microfilm and will be viewing it the first week of september. cant wait to see it. thanks for your input sincerely debbie
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Re: was it common for first cousins to marry in italy 1900,s

Postby ricbru » 21 Sep 2010, 15:26

Remember that during the 1800's in Italy, the marriage was arranged by the parents, so boys and girls had not the chance to chose someone to marry, like nowadays.
At that time, parents arranged the marriage, and before the marriage the couple used to go to notary to write down a record stating what is brought in this new born family (properties, lands, houses, furniture, pots, dishes, beds, pillows, chairs, sheets and so forth)
So it was arranged by the parents, so the parents knew that the couple somehow had a solid future.
I hope it helps
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Re: was it common for first cousins to marry in italy 1900,s

Postby debbie365 » 21 Sep 2010, 18:34

thank you riccardo that was the answer i was looking for.
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Re: was it common for first cousins to marry in italy 1900,s

Postby DebbisTree » 07 Oct 2014, 05:36

Old thread.... but my great-grandparents were first cousins as well. I was led to believe that while it might not have been common there were no stigmas surrounding the issue. I am still curious.

Was it customary that ALL or MOST parents arranged marriages in the 1800's? If so, might that be a reason for someone to have emigrated to the US? To avoid such an arranged marriage?
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Re: was it common for first cousins to marry in italy 1900,s

Postby carubia » 07 Oct 2014, 09:28

I've seen numerous cases of 1st cousins (or closer!) marrying in the project I'm working on of mapping out an entire Sicilian town's family tree (pop 5000+) in the 19th c. but I haven't attempted to compile statistics on the phenomenon yet. It was not rare. I've never seen any kind of notation on any marriage cert either to indicate that special permission was required, even when a man married his niece.

I saw one family recently in which a man married his brother's daughter in 1930, a different man married his sister's daughter in 1923, and the children of these 2 unions, who were themselves 1st/2nd cousins (1st cousins from his perspective, 2nd from hers), then wed. :shock: I was researching the genealogy of the granddaughter of these 2 people - I hope she wasn't too shocked.

I wonder if such intermarriage was more common in that province or town. Was Ribera a trailer park? :lol:

Someone from a well-to-do family in a neighboring town told me that intermarriage used to be common among the aristocracy to keep the wealth within the family, but I've seen it as much or more among peasants.
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Re: was it common for first cousins to marry in italy 1900,s

Postby PurrfectMeow » 23 Oct 2014, 20:18

I have 2 mothers in my tree who's children married each other. The children could be first cousins, I haven't been able to find who either of their mothers parents are. I've heard it was common, especially in Lipari. Small island and I guess slim pickings and all that.
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Re: was it common for first cousins to marry in italy 1900,s

Postby PeterTimber » 23 Oct 2014, 20:25

why not request their birth records (ESTRATTO DI NASCITA=more info) from Lipari if your interested? Peter
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