ROVIGO in 1850-1860: part of Venice or Austria?

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ROVIGO in 1850-1860: part of Venice or Austria?

Postby volpin » 19 Jul 2013, 10:37

Good day

I am looking for practical help to retrieve documents related to the birth and/or baptism of my great-grand-father Giovanni VOLPIN from ROVIGO (either the city or province) in the Veneto region in Italy.

Italy was unified in 1861 and my GGF Giovanni was born in or around 1855 when it was not Italy yet, but what was it considered then? The republic of Venice, part of the Austrian empire, something else? The answer could have an impact on where to look for his documents.

So far I have written to the "diocesi di Adria - Rovigo", to cultural centers in the region, but with the data I have they do not seem to be able to locate anything.


We also do not know from where he left in Italy (as Rovigo is in the north, perhaps from Venice or Genova), and where in Brazil he arrived (large ports are Santos in the São Paulo area and Rio de Janeiro).

I am wondering whether people have looked for family member documents around 1850 - 1860 in the same area (Rovigo province or Veneto region), and if yes, where you were successful (local administration, church, cultural group, etc.) .

In case anybody has experience with the search for documentation regarding people emigrating from Northern Italy (ship registries/documents etc.), that would be very helpful as well.

Thank you in advance, grazie !
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Re: ROVIGO in 1850-1860: part of Venice or Austria?

Postby carinthiangirl » 21 Sep 2013, 12:00

the closest habour would have been Trieste.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triest

Province Rovigo: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Province_of_Rovigo
http://padova.befan.it/files/2012/07/ro.gif
https://maps.google.at/maps?q=provinz+r ... =0CJkBELYD

Rovigo belonged since 15th century to Republic Venice - some to read. :wink:
here some history: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republic_of_Venice#Decline
Austrian Venetia in 1803:
The province had not a long life. After the Grande Armée had defeated the forces of the Austrian Empire at Austerlitz, Francis according to the 1805 Treaty of Pressburg had to cede the Venetian territory to the Napoleonic Kingdom of Italy. In 1815 it returned to Austria by the terms of the Final Act of the Vienna Congress and became part of the crown land of Lombardy-Venetia.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venetian_Province
Lombardy was annexed to the embryonic Italian state in 1859, by the Treaty of Zurich after the Second Italian War of Independence; Venetia was ceded to the Kingdom of Italy in 1866 in the aftermath of the Seven Weeks War, by the Peace of Prague.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingdom_of ... %93Venetia

also when was for a time "austrian" you will find info always in Italy-archives!
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Re: ROVIGO in 1850-1860: part of Venice or Austria?

Postby carinthiangirl » 21 Sep 2013, 12:18

there 2 Volpin listed at Argentinia-immigration. any connections?
http://www.immigration-records.com.ar/a ... ds-27.html

Name Age MaritalStatus Occupation Religion Nationality Ship Procedence Arrival Info
Born in day/month/year - Port
VOLPIN, ANGEL 26 S MECANICO TORNERO CATOLICA ITALIANA BUENOS AIRES GENOVA 22/10/1949 - BUENOS AIRES PADOVA
VOLPIN, ISAAK 38 S MUSICO HEBREA RUSA CAMPANA MARSELLA 10/07/1938 - BUENOS AIRES BEZAR
VOLPIN MONI., DALLERA 37 C CASERA CATOLICA ITALIANA DUILIO GENOVA 03/06/1929 - BUENOS AIRES BRESCIA
http://www.hebrewsurnames.com/extern_VOLPIN+MONI.
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Re: ROVIGO in 1850-1860: part of Venice or Austria?

Postby volpin » 23 Sep 2013, 16:46

Hello!

Thanks for the messages.

As far as I know, the Volpin family came from Italy and they had distinct Italian and catholic traditions, so I am not sure about the family originating from Russia and/or from a Hebrew background.
it could of course be that e.g. the GF of my GGF came from elsewhere (e.g. Russia) and converted to catholisism.

My GGF emigrated to Brazil (not sure where he arrived though; most likely Santos or Rio de Janeiro).
I doubt that the family arrived in Argentina and then moved to Brazil; I presume in those days, people stayed in the country where they arrived unless they had close family elsewhere, of which I don't have any information.

We think my GGF was born in or around 1855 (he died in Jan-1932 at 77 years of age).
He had my GF in 1902/1903, who was the 5th child of the couple.
We think my GGF started to have children rather late for that time, around 1895 or 1899, taking either 1 or 2 years between each child (the 4 brothers and sisters born before my GF).

Thanks again for sharing your knowledge!

Did you manage to find all the documents of your Italian ancestry?

Best regards
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Re: ROVIGO in 1850-1860: part of Venice or Austria?

Postby carinthiangirl » 23 Sep 2013, 18:00

i have no real "italian" ancestors.
one of my line from Northern Italy which was once Austrian until 1919.
Trentino-Alto Adige -> South-Tyrol from province Bolzano/ Bozen.
i had to do nothing with this family-line - most done by relatives before.
so some luck! ;)
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Re: ROVIGO in 1850-1860: part of Venice or Austria?

Postby dennisjoe » 28 Oct 2013, 08:24

Is it possible they married in the church in November either in Italy or America so they could live together and then married officially the next year?
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