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Re: Prison Records

Postby Last » 22 Jun 2007, 13:23

maybe you can write before here ( www.difesa.it/Giustizi...m-roma.htm the email is in this webpage), directly in Roma Militar Court, requesting infos by email:



Hi, could you tell me if there is a english version, I can't read Italian.

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Re: Prison Records

Postby suanj » 22 Jun 2007, 13:25

abt the txt letter? it is a resume of militar statement of your ancestor and the request abt sentence photocopy...
abt the webpage you can use babelfish translator
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Re: Prison Records

Postby Last » 25 Jun 2007, 12:53

Hello, I think I received something in my e-mail. Could you please tell me what it says. :?



Charles Parente, Jr ha scritto:
> Spett.le Tribunale militare di Roma
> all'Ufficio Competente
> Roma - viale delle Milizie, 5/c
>
> Oggetto: Richiesta informazioni
>
> Spett.le Tribunale Militare di Roma,
>
> mi chiamo Charles Parente, Jr. e sono cittadino statunitense di origini
> italiane, discendente di un italiano emigrato nel secolo scorso.
>
> Scrivo per informazioni su come richiedere fotocopia-a fini genealogici-
> della sentenza del Tribunale Militare di Roma datata 3 /06/1910 e relativa
> al mio antenato:
> - MIRRA Vincenzo nato a San Giorgio La Montagna il 27/08/1889 figlio di
> Giuseppe e DI STEFANO Maria, numero di matricola 17788, allievo carabiniere
> a piedi Legione Allievi dal 12/07/1909, tale a cavallo il 12/09/1909, messo
> in prigione per gesto squalificato il 10/05/1910, tale nelle carceri
> preventive di Roma dal 19/05/1910 e condannato con sentenza del Tribunale
> Militare di Roma emessa in data 3/06/1910.
>
> In attesa di riscontro alla presente, è gradita l'occasione per porgere i
> più distinti saluti,
>
> Charles Parente, Jr.
> 500 Center Street
> Duryea PA 18642
> U.S.A.
> cparentejr@msn.com
>
>
>
>
>
> Charles Parente, Jr.
> Human Resources Adm.
> Phone 570-825-8700 Ext. 639
> Fax 570-825-0100
>
>

In merito alla sua richiesta pervenuta in data odierna si comunica che
non risulta alcun provvedimento a carico di MIRRA Vincenzo.

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Re: Prison Records

Postby suanj » 25 Jun 2007, 13:04

no sentence on Mirra Vincenzo, so only a disciplinary action, no penal sentence...
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Re: Prison Records

Postby Last » 25 Jun 2007, 13:08

Could I receive a copy of the papers?
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Re: Prison Records

Postby suanj » 25 Jun 2007, 13:09

what paper? no result a paper in Rome militar court abt Mirra Vincenzo.. they searched and no paper... so it was only a disciplinary action...
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Re: Prison Records

Postby Last » 25 Jun 2007, 13:13

Hi :D would there be any documentation that he was disciplined? There should be some record he was disciplined.

We wrote to the state archives (I think) could we write to the army?
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Re: Prison Records

Postby suanj » 25 Jun 2007, 13:14

maybe you can write to Carabinieri Army...
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Re: Prison Records

Postby Last » 25 Jun 2007, 13:15

Hi, do they have an address or web site I could write to? Thank you for talking to me. :D
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Re: Prison Records

Postby suanj » 25 Jun 2007, 13:16

I must to search the right address, maybe ricbru can help better, he is a militar man
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Re: Prison Records

Postby Last » 25 Jun 2007, 16:40

Please see one of the messages to me from Riccardo.


Hello,
in Italy we have several kinds of Police corps

Polizia di Stato (State Police)

Carabinieri, kind of military Police corp, is the oldest in the nation, it belongs to Minister of Defense

www.carabinieri.it (only italian version)

Guardia di Finanza, it is like IRS

Polizia Penitenziaria, Correctional office corp

Polizia Forestale, Enviroment Police.

Carabinieri have many due, on of them is riding a horse.

You can find informations about your ancestor to the State Archive of the province where he was born and used to live.

I hope it helps, bye Riccardo
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Re: Prison Records

Postby Last » 25 Jun 2007, 16:43

Hello, please see the other message from Riccardo.


Dear Charles,
you can request his military record to

Archivio di Stato di Benevento

wwwdb.archivi.benicult...NEVENTO%22

These are the addresses where you can requests his parents birth, marriage and death record

Archivio di Stato di Benevento

wwwdb.archivi.benicult...NEVENTO%22

(here you find only civil records from 1809 to 1860)

and to

Comune
Ufficio di Stato civile
Piazza Municipio, 1
CAP 82018
San Giorgio del Sannio (BN)
Italy

to have church records, you write to

www.parrocchie.it/gear...d_cognome=

Letters must be written only in italian,
I hope it helps
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Re: Prison Records

Postby suanj » 25 Jun 2007, 16:49

no, maybe no right... if in Militar court of ROMA no result abt sentence court on MIRRA Vincenzo .. well I said that perhaps in the CARABINIER army they could be have some data.... but we don't know where Mirra Vincenzo was in Carabinieri Army ... it is no listed.. only Benevento District.. maybe Riccardo can to think is right to write in Benevento- Carabinieri and if they can to have some paper abt this record.... I don't know if they have the archive in the place or if all papers are in some other archive, but always militar archive... no STate archive, because you already have the Ruolo Matricolare by state Archive and this is all that you can to have abt Militar service by State Archive...
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Re: Prison Records

Postby Last » 25 Jun 2007, 17:37

Thank you suanj. :)

Hello Riccardo, please help direct me to the correct location to get the military record ofr grandpa.

Thank you

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Re: Prison Records

Postby Last » 26 Jun 2007, 12:45

Hello, please see a responce I received. Could someone direct me as to what it states.
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Gentile signor Parente,
siamo spiacenti di doverLe rappresentare che non possiamo dar seguito alla Sua richiesta poiché questa mail-box è stata istituita per fornire, esclusivamente, informazioni di carattere generale.
Pertanto se ha la necessità di spedire una richiesta al Tribunale Militare di Roma potrà farLo direttamente ai seguenti recapiti:

Tribunale Militare di Roma
Indirizzo: viale delle Milizie, 5/c - 00100 Roma
Tel.: 06/36000852
Fax: 06/3222549
E-mail tribmil.segrm@giustiziamilitare.difesa.it <mailto:tribmil.segrm@giustiziamilitare.difesa.it>

Cordialmente.


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