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various spellings

Postby figlia » 20 Feb 2010, 19:12

I have run out of ideas for variations on the name Pucillo. Specifically
Gioachino Pucillo/Puccillo. My grandfather used umpteen different spellings of his first name Gioachino. His gravestone says Giachino, his draft card says John, people called him Jack. His marriage record says Joachim. I have run out of my own ideas.
Help please?
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Re: various spellings

Postby misbris » 20 Feb 2010, 19:23

Can be spelled Gioacchino or Gioachino. English translation Joachim. Nickname Jack.

http://www.behindthename.com/nmc/ita2.php


Pucillo is much more common that Puccillo.


http://www.gens.labo.net/en/cognomi/genera.html

If it is Puccillo, it will be a lot easier to trace.
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Re: various spellings

Postby johnnyonthespot » 20 Feb 2010, 20:12

figlia wrote:I have run out of ideas for variations on the name Pucillo. Specifically
Gioachino Pucillo/Puccillo. My grandfather used umpteen different spellings of his first name Gioachino. His gravestone says Giachino, his draft card says John, people called him Jack. His marriage record says Joachim. I have run out of my own ideas.
Help please?
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Is there a particular record you are trying to locate? On manifests, draft cards, and censuses for example, it is not only the way the name was written on the document but the way it was transcribed into the indexes which interferes with our ability to locate records.
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Re: various spellings

Postby figlia » 20 Feb 2010, 22:18

I am trying to find his manifest. I have his draft card, his naturalization card, I can't find the complete application for naturalization (not sure if I looked everywhere for the application or not) I have him in the 1929 census and the 1930. I can't think of anymore variations on my own. He eventually became known as Jack in the late 20's or 30's.
Where can I find his application for naturalization and not just the card which tells me nothing. The card says Giachino Pucillo his address his age (60) dathe of admission is May 17th, 1937 the certificate was issued the same day. I have found the nat app for his brother. It's frustrating.
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Re: various spellings

Postby PeterTimber » 21 Feb 2010, 00:32

Have you tried the paying site www.footnote.com which you can access for a cursory check (informative though ) and if its what you are seeking then eikther pay $3.00 for each step or so or take a 7 day trial period. =Peter=
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Re: various spellings

Postby PeterTimber » 21 Feb 2010, 00:46

Postscript: If you go to www.gens.,labo.net/en/cognomi and put in the Pucillo and all its variations one by one inthe upper left you willsee that Pucillo seems to be up there with 81 citiesm towns and villages. I would suggest you use all the variations of the family surname and you will see that is most likely the name to rely on as your family name spelling.

Personally I prefer PUCILLO since it is a surname from a local area in Italy and not designated as an Italian surname over history and geography in the Italian surname dictionary. =Peter=
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Re: various spellings

Postby suanj » 21 Feb 2010, 10:27

Hi,
the WWI draft registration card:
World War I Draft Registration Cards, 1917-1918
about John Giocchino Puccillo
Name: John Giocchino Puccillo
City: Norwood
County: Norfolk
State: Massachusetts
Birth Date: 10 Oct 1875
Race: White
FHL Roll Number: 1684748
DraftBoard: 34

http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/2126/wwipuccillo.jpg
I cannot find the immigration record( abt 1895) as a well 1900 and 1910 censuses.. regards,
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Re: various spellings

Postby lilbees » 21 Feb 2010, 14:40

I found this on Castle Garden:

First Name: GIACINTO
Last Name: PUCILLO
Occupation: Laborer
Age: 35
Sex M
In the US Before: No
Ship: Hesperia
Arrived: 17 Apr 1899
Country: Italy
Port of departure: Naples
Place of last residence: Pastorano
PROVINCE OF LAST RESIDENCE: Caserta
City or village of destination: New York

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Re: various spellings

Postby johnnyonthespot » 21 Feb 2010, 15:01

My apologies if this has been posted already; is this the 1930 census?

Name: John Pucillo
Home in 1930: Dedham, Norfolk, Massachusetts
Age: 53
Estimated birth year: abt 1877
Birthplace: Italy
Relation to Head of House: Head
Spouse's name: Rose
Race: White
Household Members: Name Age
John Pucillo 53
Rose Pucillo 49
Salvador Pucillo 21
Louise H Pucillo 16
Patsy C Pucillo 13
Joseph Pucillo 10
Edith T Pucillo 6

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Re: various spellings

Postby johnnyonthespot » 21 Feb 2010, 15:26

Same family, 1920 census:

Name: Jack Pucillo
Home in 1920: Westwood, Norfolk, Massachusetts
Age: 45 years
Estimated birth year: abt 1875
Birthplace: Italy
Relation to Head of House: Head
Spouse's name: Rosie
Father's Birth Place: Italy
Mother's Birth Place: Italy
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Sex: Male
Home owned: Rent
Year of Immigration: 1895
Able to read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes
Household Members: Name Age
Jack Pucillo 45
Rosie Pucillo 38
Salvatore Pucillo 12
James Pucillo 14
Louise E Pucillo 6
Patrick Pucillo 2 0/12

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Re: various spellings

Postby suanj » 21 Feb 2010, 15:28

I found this record:
First Name: Gioacchino
Last Name: Pacillo
Ethnicity: Italian
Last Place of Residence: Benevento
Date of Arrival: Aug 18, 1902
Age at Arrival: 18y Gender: M Marital Status: S
Ship of Travel: Roma
Port of Departure: Naples
Manifest Line Number: 0007
but the age matching not...
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