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English equivalent for given name "Ilario"

Postby jt27 » 25 Feb 2010, 18:35

My great grandfather had a brother named Ilario, but after a certain point (1910 census, I think it was) I can't find him. I was thinking that he may have started using an English version of his name. I've found that alot of people still have this name, but I can't find an English equivalent for it anywhere. Anyone have any ideas on this?
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Re: English equivalent for given name "Ilario"

Postby Sirena » 25 Feb 2010, 18:42

perhaps Hillary which can be a male or female.
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Re: English equivalent for given name "Ilario"

Postby johnnyonthespot » 25 Feb 2010, 18:42

I am not aware of a typical English replacement for Ilario. Would you care to share the surname and place where he was last found (1900 census?)?
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Re: English equivalent for given name "Ilario"

Postby misbris » 25 Feb 2010, 19:41

Sirena is absolutely right.

ELARIO: Variant spelling of Italian Ilario, meaning "joyful, happy." ... ILARIO: Italian form of Latin Hilarius, meaning "joyful; happy. ...



Perhaps Americanized to Henry?
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Re: English equivalent for given name "Ilario"

Postby uantiti » 25 Feb 2010, 21:14

Yes, Hillary is the exact translation for Ilario but I saw that people sometimes used names having more or less the same sound instead of a translation. Try with Larry.

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Re: English equivalent for given name "Ilario"

Postby PeterTimber » 25 Feb 2010, 21:28

Its Hilary or Hillary as Ada pointed out spelled either way. =Peter=
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Re: English equivalent for given name "Ilario"

Postby johnnyonthespot » 25 Feb 2010, 22:12

Hillary/Hilary may be the literal translation, but I don't envision an Italian male immigrant looking to fit in to his new surroundings more easily changing from Ilario to Hilliary. :)
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Re: English equivalent for given name "Ilario"

Postby PeterTimber » 26 Feb 2010, 00:12

Either do I. But the facts somehow elude the fashion in names in this case. =Peter=
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Re: English equivalent for given name "Ilario"

Postby johnnyonthespot » 26 Feb 2010, 14:03

PeterTimber wrote:Either do I. But the facts somehow elude the fashion in names in this case. =Peter=


Actually, the only fact we have is that Ilario was present for the 1910 census and not for the 1920. The original poster believes this may be the result of an unknown name change.

As for me, I hope the origianl poster will give us the full name and enough other detail to allow some of us to perform our own research.

The original poster may want to consider the possiblity that Ilario simply returned to Italy, a not unheard of event...
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Re: English equivalent for given name "Ilario"

Postby jt27 » 28 Feb 2010, 20:06

Sorry all! I wasn't receiving the usual email notifications when people responded to this thread! Thank you for your interest in this...here is all the info I have:

Ilario Sorbo, born 1891 in Italy (family was from Teano and/or it's frazione San Marco) He came to the US with his father Andrea in Oct. 1902. He must have returned to Italy at some point, because in 1906 he appears on the ship manifest, arriving with his mother, Columba (nee De Quattro) and one of his brothers, Eugenio. After that, there is no record of him that I can find. Some of the family returned to Italy after 1913 (Columba and four of the children: Maria, Juliete, Alfonso and Gualderico). According to their 1921 return manifest, Alfonso remained in Italy (he was listed as next of kin in Italy). There is no mention of Ilario.

That is all the info I have.
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Re: English equivalent for given name "Ilario"

Postby jt27 » 28 Feb 2010, 20:14

ADDITIONAL INFO JUST FOUND: On Ancestry.com, there is a family tree listing that includes an"Elario" Sorbo, born 1893 in Teano and married Jan 23, 1910 in Rhode Island. I can't access the actual tree (waiting for tax return to renew my membership on Ancestry). The family tree is under the surname "Rocco"
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Re: English equivalent for given name "Ilario"

Postby PeterTimber » 28 Feb 2010, 23:57

did you try www.footnote.com? =Peter=
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Re: English equivalent for given name "Ilario"

Postby pink67 » 04 Mar 2010, 09:43

These are the marriage dates:

Rhode Island Marriages, 1636-1930
about Elisa Imondi
Spouse 1: Elisa Imondi
Spouse 2: Elario Sorbo
Marriage Date: 23 Jan 1910

and:

1912 City Directory for Providence - Rhode Island, Ilario is listed living on 22 Marietta street, occupation carpenter:

http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=aVPlfJ0

in the 1923 city directory Ilario is not listed, there are a Columbia and Pietro:

http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=aVPm06J


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Re: English equivalent for given name "Ilario"

Postby pink67 » 04 Mar 2010, 11:21

Found this interesting date:

California Death Index, 1940-1997
about Elisa E Viglidne
Name: Elisa E Viglidne
[Elisa E Imondi]
Social Security #: 2
Sex: FEMALE
Birth Date: 18 Sep 1890
Birthplace: Other Country
Death Date: 3 Jul 1985
Death Place: Los Angeles
Father's Surname: Imondi

I believe that Ilario died around 1920 because I found this 1930 census for Elizabeth Viglione living with her second? husband Gennaro Viglione... they have listed with them Gennaro's stepchild with Sorbo lastname:

1930 United States Federal Census
about Genaro Viglione
Name: Genaro Viglione
Home in 1930: Lawrence, Essex, Massachusetts
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Age: 55
Estimated birth year: abt 1875
Birthplace: Italy
Relation to Head of House: Head
Spouse's name: Elizabeth
Race: White
Occupation:

Education:

Military service:

Rent/home value:

Age at first marriage:

Parents' birthplace: View image
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Genaro Viglione 55 head
Elizabeth Viglione 40 wife
Lucio Viglione 20 son
Amedeo Viglione 24 son
Roumilda Sorbo 19 step-daughter, born in Rhode Island
Andrew Sorbo 17 step-son, born in Rhode Island
Americo Sorbo 13 step-son, born in Massachusetts
Laura Sorbo 10 step-daughter, born in Massachusetts

image:
http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=TslRp6i

Do you believe possible these are Ilario's wife and children?

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Re: English equivalent for given name "Ilario"

Postby pink67 » 04 Mar 2010, 21:00

from Ancestry.com the 1920 census:

1920 United States Federal Census
about James Sarbo
Name: James Sarbo
Home in 1920: Lawrence Ward 3, Essex, Massachusetts
Age: 28 years
Estimated birth year: abt 1892
Birthplace: Italy
Relation to Head of House: Head
Spouse's name: Lizzie
Father's Birth Place: Italy
Mother's Birth Place: Italy
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Sex: Male
Home owned: Rent
Year of Immigration: 1904
Able to read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes
Image: 184
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
James Sarbo 28 head, born in IT
Lizzie Sarbo 29 wife, born in IT
Roumilda Sarbo 9 daughter, born in MA :?:
Andrew Sarbo 6 son, born in MA :?:
Americo Sarbo 3 1/12 son, born in MA :?:

image:
http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=Tsnt9xr

So Ilario "americanized" his first name in James :D

World War I Draft Registration Cards, 1917-1918
about James Sorbo
Name: James Sorbo
City: Lawrence
County: Essex
State: Massachusetts
Birthplace: Italy
Birth Date: 15 Dec 1891
Race: Caucasian (White)
FHL Roll Number: 1674347
DraftBoard: 2
Place of birth Teano :!:

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