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Translation of marriage record

Postby elecar » 31 Mar 2010, 15:27

I have a marriage record for Joseph Boscarino and Philapae Basile which shows:
Joseph Boscarino vidium( I think this is how it is spelled) Maria Collura
I am interpreting this to read: widower of Maria Collura, am I wrong interpreting this way?
This record was from the Family Search pilot program Monreale Diocese Campofiorito Matrimony 1770-1861 Image 142of 152.
Could someone log on to the Family Search site and look at this. I would greatly appreciate it.
Thanks. I am new on this site and am not sure about how to go about getting help.
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Re: Translation of marriage record

Postby maestra36 » 31 Mar 2010, 15:48

My Latin is really rusty, but the word viduus is widower and vidua is widow. The word in the document is viduum, so I do believe that he had been previously married to Maria Collura and that she had predeceased him.
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Re: Translation of marriage record

Postby elecar » 01 Apr 2010, 13:06

Thank you so much. I suspected this was the case.

I have other records I need help on if you or anyone else can help me figure this out I appreciate it.

Happy Easter.
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Re: Translation of marriage record

Postby maestra36 » 01 Apr 2010, 15:24

Just let us know what you need and either I, or someone else on this forum, will do their best to help you. Happy Easter to you too.
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Re: Translation of marriage record

Postby PeterTimber » 01 Apr 2010, 15:32

Viduum means the same thing widow or widower depending upon the grammatical function of the word. =Peter=
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Re: Translation of marriage record

Postby Lucap » 01 Apr 2010, 20:01

Male (singular)
Nominativo viduus
Genitivo vidui
Dativo viduo
Accusativo viduum
Vocativo vidue
Ablativo viduo

Female (singular)
Nominativo vidua
Genitivo viduae
Dativo viduae
Accusativo viduam
Vocativo vidua
Ablativo vidua

edited to correct letters not identified from the sistem (see here: http://66.71.182.1/declinazione.php?lem ... rola=vidua )
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Re: Translation of marriage record

Postby PeterTimber » 01 Apr 2010, 20:20

LUCAP my wife had told me it was in the accusative but I didn't want to invoke what so few people know today. (fuori di lei!) =Peter=
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Re: Translation of marriage record

Postby Lucap » 01 Apr 2010, 20:35

PeterTimber wrote:LUCAP my wife had told me it was in the accusative but I didn't want to invoke what so few people know today. (fuori di lei!) =Peter=

Yes, but it is useful to understand that "viduum" can be referred only to a male.
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Re: Translation of marriage record

Postby maestra36 » 01 Apr 2010, 21:07

Lucap
I thought about posting a list of the Latin cases, as you have above, but I figured that really would not shed light on the meaning of the word viduum. It's been umpteen years since I studied Latin and never thought that I would have use for it all these years later. Thanks for clarifying that the word viduum, as it appears in the document, is only used to refer to a male.
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Re: Translation of marriage record

Postby PeterTimber » 01 Apr 2010, 21:18

I tried to avoid complexity. I avoided decletion of nouns in Latin. The accusative in a masculine declention ends in UM. =Peter=
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Re: Translation of marriage record

Postby elecar » 02 Apr 2010, 13:07

To all of you thank you for responding. I will be back with more questions after Easter.
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