A few words in an 1882 birth record

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A few words in an 1882 birth record

Postby lngrid » 08 Apr 2010, 03:17

I'm having a bit of trouble figuring out the words enclosed by parentheses in the following image of a birth record. I'd appreciate any help.
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Re: A few words in an 1882 birth record

Postby Tessa78 » 08 Apr 2010, 03:31

sua moglie legittima (his legitimate wife)
secolui convivente (his cohabitant)
egli mi presenta (he presents to me)
e a cui d'a i nomi should read e a cui dai nomi


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Re: A few words in an 1882 birth record

Postby Lucap » 08 Apr 2010, 07:36

Tessa78 wrote:e a cui d'a i nomi should read e a cui dai nomi

The correct form is: "a cui [egli] dà i nomi..."
"Dà" is the third person of the verb "dare" ( http://www.itg-rondani.it/dida/italiano/verbi/27.htm ), and it has the accent on the "a" to avoid confusion with the "preposizione semplice" da (di, a ,da, in, con, su ecc. ).
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Re: A few words in an 1882 birth record

Postby Tessa78 » 08 Apr 2010, 13:44

Oops! :-( I must have been reading this in my sleep.
Thanks, Lucap, for correcting this. :-)

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Re: A few words in an 1882 birth record

Postby lngrid » 09 Apr 2010, 02:32

Thanks again, Tessa and Lucap. I'm so grateful for what you're teaching me. I've bookmarked the link on conjugating Italian verbs, Lucap. I wish I had time to go back to college. I learned French from my mother and grandmother but I loved being formally taught French grammer, conjugation and idioms in school.

But back to the task at hand. Am I getting a fairly good grasp of a birth record?

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"In the year one thousand eight hundred eighty-two on the thirtieth of August at ten-forty am at the town hall before me, Marsico Enrico Sindaio, Civil Status Officer for the town of San Fili, appeared Pietro Perri, son of the deceased Pasquale, who is a 41 year-old farm worker living in Bucita, San Fili, declaring to me that at ten minutes after eight pm on the twenty-eighth day of the current month in the house at Number Seven Via Danise, to Concetta Lucchetta, his legitimate wife and cohabitant, a female infant was born who he presents to me and he gives the names MARIA LUCIA.

Present at the above as witnesses were Francesco Brune
..."

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"... son of the deceased Pietro, age twenty-two, cowboy, and Antonio Perri, son of the deceased Gaetano, aged sixty-two, farm laborer, both residents of this comune.

This document was read to the participants and is signed below by me alone, the others being illiterate."
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Re: A few words in an 1882 birth record

Postby liviomoreno » 09 Apr 2010, 05:20

Your translation is very accurate!
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Re: A few words in an 1882 birth record

Postby lngrid » 09 Apr 2010, 05:29

Thank you, Livio. I am flattered because I understand you, if not a native Italian, have lived there for 50 years.

If the translation is accurate it is because of people like Lucap, Italian-English dictionaries, online search engines and the fact that both my father and I used to have medium-high positions in government. I learned the way bureaucratic language is supposed to sound. *laugh*
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