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di Lorenzo, Raucci matrimoni

Postby oilman19 » 17 Jun 2010, 09:32

http://italiangenealogy.com/Forums/view ... renzo.html
I have posted a link for a previous thread for reference.
I strongly believe this is a sibling. However there seem to be some discrepancies that I will have to deal with.
I need a better translation than I can do for this new document. It has an extra page of many names which I can't figure out.
I have a film with many of these Atti di Matrimonio documents. Is there a format I can follow to try to translate the other ones? It looks like a lot of additional info over the more current Atti's.
Help! Please. :)

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Re: di Lorenzo, Raucci matrimoni

Postby Tessa78 » 17 Jun 2010, 14:10

Hi Jim,

Do you have this link to "Extraction Guide for civil Marriages?"

http://familyhistory.byu.edu/Downloads/ ... pter_4.pdf

Left side translation:
This is the Act of the solemn promise to celebrate Matrimony

1836 February 3 @ 1 PM before the officer of the town appeared...

Francesco Saverio Rauccio, 32, born in SMCV, farmer, residing on Strada Pietrasanta, son of Raffaele, farmer residing with his son and Rosa diNardo, spinner residing with her husband and son;
AND
Maria Rosa diLaurenzo (sp?), 25, seamstress born in SMCV, residing Street named above, daughter of Arcangelo, farmer who is residing with his daughter, and Maria (xxxx) Tescione, spinner residing with her husband and daughter, widower of Domenica Santoro.

Then date of banns recorded.

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edit: Corrected bride's mother's surname
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Postby Tessa78 » 17 Jun 2010, 14:13

The right side is the NOTICE of the celebration of canonical marriage (church wedding)

It seems to have taken place on 4 Feb 1836.

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Re: di Lorenzo, Raucci matrimoni

Postby oilman19 » 17 Jun 2010, 14:39

Hi T.

Can you help me prove (or disprove) this is my GGGM's sister?
*same father
*could be same mother (Irene Tescione?)
*would it be likely to have 2 Maria's with different middle names? I've seen it but not often.
Deep down inside I just know it is my GGGgrandparents. Is it wishful thinking? :)

Thank you.

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Re: di Lorenzo, Raucci matrimoni

Postby Tessa78 » 17 Jun 2010, 14:49

Hi Jim,

I couldnt read the second name on the mother...but looking at it in the context of "Irene" I would certainly say it was so.

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Postby Tessa78 » 17 Jun 2010, 14:51

It also looks like the last name should be di Laurienzo...

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Postby oilman19 » 17 Jun 2010, 14:54

You are making my day. Don't stop. :D

Botton line opinion. Am I on the right track? :)

That misspelling?? of the surname got my attention. I never saw it spelled that way. Have you?

Thanks,

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Re: di Lorenzo, Raucci matrimoni

Postby oilman19 » 17 Jun 2010, 14:55

You think the i belongs there?
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Postby Tessa78 » 17 Jun 2010, 14:58

I would definitely say you are on the right track :-D

As for the name...your experience (and mine) demonstrates that these records can have many variations in handwriting, spelling, etc. I don't think that at the time the records were written anyone ever expected them to be viewed with the detail we give them...

Soooo - it makes our journey through them that much less "routine" :-)

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Postby Tessa78 » 17 Jun 2010, 15:02

I'm not sure if your page 2 is related to the documents on page 1.
If they are....there isn't much info in them...priests names, etc.

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Postby oilman19 » 17 Jun 2010, 15:04

So, reading between the lines of your answer, I should accept the addition of the i in this generation and then allow it to be dropped in future generations? :? :)

I can accept that. But, that was a very non-committal answer. :lol:

Thank you, Tessa.
As always, your help is appreciated.

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Postby oilman19 » 17 Jun 2010, 15:07

It sounds like it may not be necessary to scan the 2nd page? Just look for any marginal notes?
That will be a time saver.

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Re: di Lorenzo, Raucci matrimoni

Postby Tessa78 » 17 Jun 2010, 15:28

Depends...
Look with a keen eye at the second page...when in doubt - scan it! :-)

There are no "hard and fast" rules here :wink:

Did you notice the "o" at the end of Raucci? :?

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Postby Tessa78 » 17 Jun 2010, 15:37

oilman19 wrote:So, reading between the lines of your answer, I should accept the addition of the i in this generation and then allow it to be dropped in future generations? :? :)


IF the rest of the information (dates, parents, spouse, etc.) fits...

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Postby oilman19 » 17 Jun 2010, 16:06

Did you notice the "o" at the end of Raucci?

I didn't question the "o". Should I have? Is it likely to get dropped on future documents? I'm not familiar with the name.

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