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Giuseppe Angiello matrimoni

Postby oilman19 » 29 Jul 2010, 03:41

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Hi again jima :)

Here is the matrimoni of your gg grandparents, It should provide you with Giuseppe's parents names.
Hope this helps.
I'm sure someone will be kind enough to translate it for you.

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Re: Giuseppe Angiello matrimoni

Postby Tessa78 » 29 Jul 2010, 12:45

Short version... :-)


Act of Marriage #11

1883 February 15.
Giuseppe Angiello, 35, mason, son of Domenico and deceased Maria Graziano
AND
Magnifica Merenda, 27, peasant farmer, daughter of _______ and Teresa Mengliuto(sp?)

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Re: Giuseppe Angiello matrimoni

Postby JimA » 04 Aug 2010, 23:21

Hmm, thought I already responded here, but I don't see my post... anyway, here is the gist:

Wow, Jim, you are amazing! You too, Tessa! Thank you so much.
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Re: Giuseppe Angiello matrimoni

Postby JimA » 04 Aug 2010, 23:30

It appears that Carmela and Carmina Angiello were the same person, and that she was the older sister of Giuseppe (from referencing other posts here).
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Re: Giuseppe Angiello matrimoni

Postby maestra36 » 04 Aug 2010, 23:42

The mother of the bride was Teresa Magliulo
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Re: Giuseppe Angiello matrimoni

Postby JimA » 04 Aug 2010, 23:54

Wonderful, thank you maestra!
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Re: Giuseppe Angiello matrimoni

Postby maestra36 » 04 Aug 2010, 23:55

can't read the bride's father's first name either
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Re: Giuseppe Angiello matrimoni

Postby oilman19 » 05 Aug 2010, 00:17

Does it provide a nati for Magnifica?
Where did they get married?

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Re: Giuseppe Angiello matrimoni

Postby oilman19 » 05 Aug 2010, 01:00

jima

Have you seen this post?
http://italiangenealogy.com/Forums/view ... iello.html

I also have Carmina's birth act if you haven't seen it.

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Re: Giuseppe Angiello matrimoni

Postby JimA » 05 Aug 2010, 03:09

Hi, Jim,

Yes, I have seen that post and the one with Carmina's birth act. One or the other of those two threads brought me to this site and to you.

What are the odds that Carmina and Carmela are two different people?

Carmela was 29 on November 24, 1873, so she was most likely born in 1844, but possibly in 1843. Her father's name was Domenico.

Carmina was born May 1, 1844. Her father's name was Domenico as well.
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Re: Giuseppe Angiello matrimoni

Postby oilman19 » 05 Aug 2010, 08:43

Hi Jim

Your conclusion is correct. I believe Carmela and Carmina are the same person. I made the same calculations.
However, I have already run into this phenomenon. Elsewhere in my family tree, the same thing occurred with the same given name. Since it is not a middle name swap (as seems to be common), maybe someone can tell us why this given name has tended to change over time.
Carmine "johnnyonthespot", or Peter, this looks like it is right up your alley. Any opinion?

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Re: Giuseppe Angiello matrimoni

Postby maestra36 » 05 Aug 2010, 12:29

Possible first name for the bride's father is Saverio.
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Re: Giuseppe Angiello matrimoni

Postby maestra36 » 05 Aug 2010, 12:34

The bride's birth place is given in the record, but I have to decipher the town name. It was not SMCV
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Re: Giuseppe Angiello matrimoni

Postby oilman19 » 05 Aug 2010, 12:50

Normally when I se a hand written document for a matrimoni, I assume it is a ceremony that took place elsewhere. I can't get to first base without the discipline of the forms where you know where to find the info you seek. Try as I may, I have made practically no progress in translating this type of document.
You are my lifesaver.

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Re: Giuseppe Angiello matrimoni

Postby maestra36 » 05 Aug 2010, 12:57

Jim
This is a really difficult document to translate. I see that the publications were only made in SMCV, but the town of birth for the bride is definitely something different. I can't make out the first letter of the town name at all. So I really don't know at this point. I also can't read where her mother is a resident but her mother's maiden name definitely exists in SMCV.

I see the standard info in the record about him taking her for his bride and her taking him for her husband. I also see the names of the witnesses. Let me go back and look at those names and see if they are surnames from SMCV. It was customary for the bride and groom to provide their own witnesses.

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