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Does the matrimoni annotation say 10 Feb 1873 in Santa Maria?
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I believe it's the first, Jim.
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I agree- the first.
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Any idea what that little "0" represents?

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The little o up in the air after a number is used for ordinal numbers such as first, second, third, fourth, fifth, etc. In Spanish, they put a little o up in the air if the number refers to something masculine, but they put a little a in the air if the number refers to something feminine. I am not sure, but I think that is the same in Italian. It's just an abbreviated way of writing first, second, third, etc, using a number instead of the word.
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Hi Jim,

The number one with a superscript "0" is the notation for "primo" which means "first" :-)

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Wow, simultaneously :-)
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oilman19 wrote:Any idea what that little "0" represents?

Jim
It indicates an abbreviation. The date is not 1 February 1873 but actually "1st" (of) February 1873.

1° or 1ª = 1st
2° or 2ª = 2nd
3° or 3ª = 3rd
4° or 4ª = 4th
5° or 5ª = 5th

° when followed by a masculine noun, ª when followed by a feminine noun.

See http://italian.about.com/od/grammar/a/aa042600c.htm
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Okay, so I was a couple of minutes late.

But, I included the extra information masculine/feminine!

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It's always a matter of which one of us types faster, and it's usually you, as I have always been, and still am, a terrible typist.

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Good morning to you too, Carmine.
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Hi Peg :-)

And, of course, Carmine :-) - Always "johnnyonthespot"

Liked the gender info...didn't know it occurred in ordinations...

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I have read that it did, but I have never seen the feminine form in an Italian document, at least I don't recall seeing it.
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I wasn't familiar with this practice. Usually, I see the word "primo" written in the blank space.
I appreciate the education.

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Good morning, Jim. That's what we're here for-to further educate others and to get further educated ourselves.
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