Died Aug 6, 1879
Age 6 yrs
parents Antonio and Angela Paliani
Also, am I reading correctly that the record lists the age of the official documenting the death, the subject, and the witnesses, but not the parents? Is there any other info I should be getting from this record?
I'm really doubting the ages I've translated on these 2 death certs. The first one is 77 yrs and the other is 74. My ancestors in the early-mid 1900s rarely lived past 50; it doesn't seem like they would've lived longer in the mid-late 1800s! Can someone double-check me?
In answer to your question about "declarants" and "witnesses"..
The declarants appeared at the town hall before the official to declare or announce the death. The witnesses were actually witnesses to the declaration. As to the ages in your death certs . above...
Maria was 77 as you translated.
Marianna was 64 (sessantaquattro)
Thank you again, Tessa. If I haven't worn you out yet...
Can you verify the first few sentences roughly translate "in the year ___ on __ day of ___ month, in the town hall before myself (official's name), (declarants names & ages) declared to me at the hour of __ and __ minutes, at the house located at ___, John Doe died". Does that sound about right?
I've been assuming the date in the first line is the date of death since it's the only date given. Now that I've translated it, it appears that is the date the declarants announced the death at town hall and may not necessarily be the day the person died. Is that true or am I just looking at it too hard?
When you look through civil death records on microfilm, you will find the same witnesses serving over and over on records for a given year. The reason is that these witnesses would hang around the town halls and serve as witnesses as needed. It is my understanding that they were paid to serve in that capacity. As Livio stated, they were not witnesses to a death but only to the act concerning the death that was formulated by the town official once the death had been reported to him.
Wow, I hadn't noticed that. But for one exception, the same two people are listed as witnesses on all of my death records, which span 5 years, and a marriage record.
Interestingly, the same declarant is listed on all 6 of the Palladini death records I found on microfilm. He accompanied the deceased's father to Town Hall, except in two cases where the individuals were quite old. Would that indicate that he was a close friend of the family or that he hung around Town Hall like the witnesses?