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Two documents to translate

Postby chris0202 » 09 Oct 2010, 18:25

Hi,
I have two documents, the first is a military discharge for Gennaro Laghetto. I am especially interested to see if his parents are named. The second is some sort of birth or adoption paper for Carmine Carbone. I have a lot of trouble with the old fashioned handwriting and I only have a rudimentary knowledge of Italian. Thanks for any help!

http://yfrog.com/n3armydischargesmj
http://yfrog.com/mibirthrecordsmj
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Re: Two documents to translate

Postby maestra36 » 09 Oct 2010, 18:44

The parents are named in the first record. The father's name was Michele (deceased at the time) is written above in small letters. I can't make out what appears in the line where his first name should be, appearing after the word fu which means deceased. The mother's name was Maria Giuseppa De Simone.

The other record is a birth record.
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Re: Two documents to translate

Postby maestra36 » 09 Oct 2010, 18:51

The birth record is dated April 6, 1864, but the male infant was born on the 3rd. His father, Giuseppe Carbone, the son of Carmine, a farmhand, age 41, was the informant in this record who made the presentation of the infant at the town hall and reported the details of his birth. His wife was Rachela D'Ambrosi,of Vincenzo, age 36. He was living on Strada Terrazzini. The infant was given the name Carmine.
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Re: Two documents to translate

Postby maestra36 » 09 Oct 2010, 18:55

Town looks like S. Valentino Torio
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Re: Two documents to translate

Postby maestra36 » 09 Oct 2010, 18:58

San Valentino Torio is in Salerno Province.

http://www.comune.sanvalentinotorio.sa.it/it/
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Re: Two documents to translate

Postby maestra36 » 09 Oct 2010, 19:00

Street name should be Terrazzani not Terrazzini, as I typed above
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Re: Two documents to translate

Postby chris0202 » 09 Oct 2010, 19:03

Thanks so much! So Michele would be the father's first name and the last name is illegible?

maestra36 wrote:The parents are named in the first record. The father's name was Michele (deceased at the time) is written above in small letters. I can't make out what appears in the line where his first name should be, appearing after the word fu which means deceased. The mother's name was Maria Giuseppa De Simone.

The other record is a birth record.
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Re: Two documents to translate

Postby chris0202 » 09 Oct 2010, 19:09

When it says Rachela D'Ambrosi, of Vincenzo. What does the Vincenzo refer to? Is it a person or a place? Sorry for all the questions, I am a newbie for sure.

maestra36 wrote:The birth record is dated April 6, 1864, but the male infant was born on the 3rd. His father, Giuseppe Carbone, the son of Carmine, a farmhand, age 41, was the informant in this record who made the presentation of the infant at the town hall and reported the details of his birth. His wife was Rachela D'Ambrosi,of Vincenzo, age 36. He was living on Strada Terrazzini. The infant was given the name Carmine.
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Re: Two documents to translate

Postby maestra36 » 09 Oct 2010, 19:10

Gennaro's last name is Laghetto. The name that appears after the word deceased for the father looks like Massa. What looks like an "e" after the capital M, I think is just part of the handwriting for that letter.
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Re: Two documents to translate

Postby maestra36 » 09 Oct 2010, 19:11

Vincenzo is the first name of Rachela's father. He was still alive at the time she gave birth. Women in the Italian records are always under their maiden names, even when married.
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Re: Two documents to translate

Postby maestra36 » 09 Oct 2010, 19:13

Giuseppe Carbone's father Carmine was also alive when Giuseppe's son Carmine was born.
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Re: Two documents to translate

Postby maestra36 » 09 Oct 2010, 19:15

One more thing about the military record-the word allevato appears before the name of Gennaro's father. That means he was raised or brought up by the parents listed in the record.
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Re: Two documents to translate

Postby maestra36 » 09 Oct 2010, 19:22

Just to clarify for you- the father who raised Gennaro Laghetto in the military record was named Michele Massa.
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Re: Two documents to translate

Postby Tessa78 » 09 Oct 2010, 21:46

maestra36 wrote:The birth record is dated April 6, 1864


I believe it states 1874.

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Re: Two documents to translate

Postby maestra36 » 09 Oct 2010, 23:10

Thanks, T, for catching my error. It is 1974.
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