where does the accent fall ?

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where does the accent fall ?

Postby timo » 07 Nov 2010, 12:32

Where does the accent fall in the second part of the town name Pietraperzia?

pi E tra per ZI a
or
pi E tra PER zia

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Re: where does the accent fall ?

Postby Squigy » 07 Nov 2010, 12:43

timo wrote:Where does the accent fall in the second part of the town name Pietraperzia?

pi E tra per ZI a
or
pi E tra PER zia

Thanks


I think it's P IE tra per ZI a (emphasis on the IE and ZI). I don't speak Italian, but I get the phonetics pretty well. I could be wrong, though.
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Re: where does the accent fall ?

Postby johnnyonthespot » 07 Nov 2010, 13:30

Permit me to add my small amount of knowledge to this discussion:

a) In Italian, the emphasis normally falls on the next-to-last syllable unless the final character is written with an accent mark. For example, gravità = gra-vee-TA. I note that Pietraperzia's official website does not spell the name with an accented final a. http://www.comune.pietraperzia.en.it/

b) the Italian letter "z" is normally pronounced as "tz" with the t ending the previous syllable and the z (which is actually pronounced more like an English "s") beginning the next. For example, pizza = PETE-sa and grazie = grat-SEE-eh.

I assume that Pietraperzia began as two words, thus the pronunciation would be pee-A-tra-pert-SEE-a.

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Re: where does the accent fall ?

Postby timo » 07 Nov 2010, 14:19

But there are times when the accent doesn't fall on the penultimate syllable, eg. the verb for " I leave/bequeath" : lascio, where the ending sounds merge into a dipthong (two sounds as one syllable), and the accent then falls on LA.

So I was wondering if the "ia" at the end of Pietraperzia was a dipthong too, in which case you'd get pi E tra PERT sya.


EDIT: Google pronounces it as you indicate, but their "p" sounds like an "f":

FE thra fer ZI a. ( p > f)

That's the Sicilian dialect pronunciation?

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Re: where does the accent fall ?

Postby liviomoreno » 07 Nov 2010, 14:43

It is P IE tra per ZI a (emphasis on the IE and ZI) - watch and listen the video http://www.google.it/url?sa=t&source=we ... bA&cad=rja

The word "lascio" is composed by two syllables "la and scio", it follows the general rule that the stress is on the penultimate syllable...

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Re: where does the accent fall ?

Postby Squigy » 07 Nov 2010, 23:14

If I could add one, how do you pronounce Marcianise?

Is it like Mar cIA nIse (emphasis on the IA and the I) or MarcianIse (emphasis on just the I).

The first one sounds better to me.
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Re: where does the accent fall ?

Postby liviomoreno » 08 Nov 2010, 06:04

MarcianIse (emphasis on just the I)

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Re: where does the accent fall ?

Postby Squigy » 08 Nov 2010, 06:13

liviomoreno wrote:MarcianIse (emphasis on just the I)


Thanks! That makes more sense, but for some reason doesn't sound right to me.
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Campobasso: D'Andrea, Barile



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