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Question about Italian Records

Postby adelfio » 09 Jan 2011, 19:24

Looking at quite of few records now did it make a difference in how wealthy you were in how the records were written out because some of these Allegati"s are in beautiful hand writing and some like my family peasant farmers are poorly hand written and kinda hard to decipher.
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Re: Question about Italian Records

Postby rdel4577 » 10 Jan 2011, 02:04

Having looked at my ancestor's records from various towns and various time frames, I think it really just depends on the hand writing ability or style of the city or church clerk or the priest.

Some of my relative's records are clear and precise, others are like chicken scratching.

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Re: Question about Italian Records

Postby adelfio » 10 Jan 2011, 15:34

The reason I ask some records are from the town same time frame one is a form record and the next is totally hand written looks like a bad night at the vineyard

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Re: Question about Italian Records

Postby liviomoreno » 10 Jan 2011, 17:45

A death book register is divided in 2 parts:

Parte 1 - Contains the death records of the people who died in their house

Parte 2 - Contains the death records of the people who died in other places and is divided in 3 series:
Serie A: people who died in another town
Serie B: people who died in hospitals, jails, etc
Serie C: people who died abroad, during an airplane or ship disaster or in war, etc

Parte 1 and Part 2A and 2B usually use printed forms while Part 2C is usually 100% handwritten
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Re: Question about Italian Records

Postby adelfio » 10 Jan 2011, 21:26

Thank you for the info Livio
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Re: Question about Italian Records

Postby johnnyonthespot » 10 Jan 2011, 23:50

liviomoreno wrote:A death book register is divided in 2 parts:

Parte 1 - Contains the death records of the people who died in their house

Parte 2 - Contains the death records of the people who died in other places and is divided in 3 series:
Serie A: people who died in another town
Serie B: people who died in hospitals, jails, etc
Serie C: people who died abroad, during an airplane or ship disaster or in war, etc

Parte 1 and Part 2A and 2B usually use printed forms while Part 2C is usually 100% handwritten


I've been wondering about this for some time but never had a reason (regarding my own records) to ask the question.

Livio, how about a similar description for birth and marriage records?
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Re: Question about Italian Records

Postby maestra36 » 11 Jan 2011, 00:09

I am surprised by what Livio had to say about the death records in Part II, as I have death records from Part II for individuals who died in other towns which are completely handwritten, as well ones for individuals who died in hospitals in another town, again completely handwritten, and I have one for a person who died in Argentina, again completely handwritten. Then I have a death record extract for a direct line ancestor's brother-in- law who died during WWI in a camp hospital. This record is a form record with fill in the blanks in the most beautiful handwriting I have ever seen on an Italian record. So the records in my possession obviously don't follow the norm which Livio seems to have outlined above.
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Re: Question about Italian Records

Postby adelfio » 11 Jan 2011, 00:59

So whats the earliest form record you have seen in your research of Italian records?
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Re: Question about Italian Records

Postby maestra36 » 11 Jan 2011, 01:34

Hi Marty
Offhand I can't answer your question. Will have to go through my records to answer this one and that will take me some time. I have records which I have gathered since 1997.
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Re: Question about Italian Records

Postby liviomoreno » 11 Jan 2011, 07:40

@Peg
[quote=Livio]Parte 1 and Part 2A and 2B usually use printed forms while Part 2C is usually 100% handwritten[/quote]

I would also add that the printed form may differ from town to town, and some times the death records may have an annotation related to the birth of the individual.

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Birth Acts

Parte 1 Serie A: Contains the births announced to the Ufficio di Stato Civile.
Parte 1 Serie B: Contains the births announced to the Ufficio di Stato Civile more than 10 days after the actual birth
Parte 2 Serie A: Contains the records of birth occurred in a town which is different from the residency
Parte 2 Serie B: Contains the records of birth occurred in hospitals, abroad, on a ship, etc.

Marriage acts
Parte 1 contains the marriages celebrated in the town hall
Other marriages are recorded in Parte 2...

All of the above is not 100% accurate, rules may have changed overtime...

The current rule may be found at http://www.esteri.it/MAE/normative/Norm ... _12055.pdf
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Re: Question about Italian Records

Postby crosa » 21 Jan 2011, 02:59

rdel, when you talk about looking at the records, did you write the form letter to the commune or did you find it another waycrosa
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Re: Question about Italian Records

Postby adelfio » 21 Jan 2011, 03:19

Crosa did you look at your post on the first sight We dont only do italian geneology?
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Re: Question about Italian Records

Postby crosa » 21 Jan 2011, 03:37

yes but I know the sisters stayed in Italy, married and had children
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Re: Question about Italian Records

Postby adelfio » 21 Jan 2011, 03:52

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