Sarricchio-Fittipaldi processetti from 1865

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Sarricchio-Fittipaldi processetti from 1865

Postby bkworm10 » 05 Feb 2011, 18:25

Hi,

While browsing through the processetti for Accettura, I found a Sarricchio which is one of my surnames that I am researching (my g-grandmother was a Sarricchio). My guess is that he is a cousin (different father and different grandfather). So I'm trying to piece together all the Sarricchio's in Accettura, to see how they relate, since there are not that many. So below, I have the groom's birth act (Raffaele Sarricchio), his grandfather's death record (Rocco Sarricchio) and his father's death record (Giuseppe Sarricchio). Could someone please help me translate? I'm particularly interested in street addresses (if they are included) as well as dates, professions, etc... I will tell you what I can read from each image. Please let me know if I am correct! :-)

http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/9967/sf18656a.jpg

Raffaele Sarricchio, son of Giuseppe, age 21, son of Rocco, profession ???
living in Accettura.
Mother is Rachele Casalaspro, can't figure out where it says she is living.
It looks like both his parents are dead in 1865.
Is he born Jan 21? I cannot figure out the year.

http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/1914/sf186510.jpg

Death record of Rocco Sarricchio, his grandfather. Parents are Carmine Sarricchio and ??? Belmonte, both are deceased. He died in 1828 on Oct 14. He was 62?

http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/347/sf186512.jpg

Death record of Giuseppe Sarricchio, his father.
Parents are Rocco and Anna Labbate, both are deceased. Giuseppe died Dec 5 at the age of 60? I can't figure out the year.

Strada (street, road) seems to be listed on all 3 forms, but I can't make out the name. I would like to compare to my g-grandmother's street on her birth act.

Thanks! -Annette

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Re: Sarricchio-Fittipaldi processetti from 1865

Postby Tessa78 » 05 Feb 2011, 20:25

First image...

Giuseppe (Raffaele's father) is 36, and occupation looks like an "agricoltore", but I'm not sure.

Mother Rachele, is 27, and lives "come sopra" (as stated above) so it's also Accetura. No street name is given. It states "at the house they inhabit".

Raffaele was born on the 15th of January, presented on the 16th at the town hall to the official, and baptized on the 16th (this last is noted in the right column) at Par. S. Nicola.

Not sure where you are getting the "parents are dead" part?

Year looks like 1840 - but really not sure about that :-(

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Re: Sarricchio-Fittipaldi processetti from 1865

Postby Tessa78 » 05 Feb 2011, 20:39

On the second image - the death record - I think you did a great job! :-)

I think the mother's name was Laura or Lorena.

He died at the HOUR "quattro e dieci" which is 4:10 AM, and I think he died on the third of October, 1828.

There are street addresses given for the declarants, but not for the deceased. Just mentions "sua casa" - his house.

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Re: Sarricchio-Fittipaldi processetti from 1865

Postby bkworm10 » 05 Feb 2011, 20:42

Tessa78 wrote:Not sure where you are getting the "parents are dead" part?

Year looks like 1840 - but really not sure about that :-(

T.


OK, it looks like I better stick with the professionals on translation. I was way off (other than the names) :-) Oh well, I tried.

I thought if something was written before the names of the parents, it meant the parents are dead.

Raffaele may be an uncle or cousin to my g-g-grandfather Vito, who was born in 1860.

Thanks, Tess. -Annette

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Re: Sarricchio-Fittipaldi processetti from 1865

Postby Tessa78 » 05 Feb 2011, 20:48

On Giuseppe's death record (you third image) the year looks like "milleottocentosessantadue" or 1862.

The rest you have correct.
It also mentions he was the husband of Rachele Casalaspro (sp?)

No street named, but it looks like all the declarants of both Rocco's death and Giuseppe's death lived on Strada S. Francesco. More than likely they were neighbors who went to report the deaths.

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Re: Sarricchio-Fittipaldi processetti from 1865

Postby bkworm10 » 05 Feb 2011, 21:33

Thanks Tess!

This is a post that has my g-grandmother's birth act (posted before I was familiar with imageshack).

http://italiangenealogy.com/Forums/view ... 19769.html

Can anyone read the street address? I can't make it out. I would like to see if the street exists today and also keep it in the back of my mind as I go through the various documents.

Thanks, Annette

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Re: Sarricchio-Fittipaldi processetti from 1865

Postby Tessa78 » 05 Feb 2011, 21:42

The address looks like "Vico Secondo Pozzo", number 28.

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Re: Sarricchio-Fittipaldi processetti from 1865

Postby bkworm10 » 05 Feb 2011, 22:53

Tessa78 wrote:The address looks like "Vico Secondo Pozzo", number 28.

T.


Wow, thanks! The street still exists today! Around the corner is another street that a Sarricchio lives on today. Of course, the town is small, so probably all the streets are close!

A Sarricchio lives on the street Vicolo I Pozzo, (see below) do you think it's the same thing? What does Vicolo mean?


Sarricchio Vito
75011 Accettura (MT)
Vicolo I Pozzo, 26

I need to write to some of them, but I was hoping to have more info. before I did.

Thanks! -Annette

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Re: Sarricchio-Fittipaldi processetti from 1865

Postby maestra36 » 06 Feb 2011, 03:34

I am wondering if what Annette is seeing before the parents' names (which she thought indicated that they were deceased) are abbreviations for the titles Don and Donna for Lord and Lady.

I also think the year in the first image is 1830 and not 1840.
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Tessa78 wrote:First image...

Giuseppe (Raffaele's father) is 26, and occupation looks like an "agricoltore", but I'm not sure.

Mother Rachele, is 27, and lives "come sopra" (as stated above) so it's also Accetura. No street name is given. It states "at the house they inhabit".

Raffaele was born on the 15th of January, presented on the 16th at the town hall to the official, and baptized on the 16th (this last is noted in the right column) at Par. S. Nicola.

Not sure where you are getting the "parents are dead" part?

Year looks like 1840 - but really not sure about that :-(

T.

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Re: Sarricchio-Fittipaldi processetti from 1865

Postby bkworm10 » 06 Feb 2011, 03:53

Thanks Peg for the clarification on the year. Also, what does that mean if Lord and Lady are before their names?

Thanks, Annette

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Re: Sarricchio-Fittipaldi processetti from 1865

Postby bkworm10 » 06 Feb 2011, 04:09

I checked the marriage document and it does appear that Raffaele is 34 years old as is his wife. Interesting as it was the first marriage for both. So I think 1830 is correct. It also does show clearly Don and Donna before the names of the mother and father. I have no idea what that means though, if anything.

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Re: Sarricchio-Fittipaldi processetti from 1865

Postby maestra36 » 06 Feb 2011, 04:47

Don and Donna, or Lord and Lady, were titles given to people who were upper class or nobility. They were not commoners or peasants. Normally they were property owners. The title Don also often appears in front of the names of priests. A lot of priests actually came from upper class families or families of nobility.

I can't make out the word for the profession of Giuseppe in the first image, but if the title of Don for him is correct, then he would not have been an agricoltore or farmer.

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Re: Sarricchio-Fittipaldi processetti from 1865

Postby Tessa78 » 06 Feb 2011, 15:23

bkworm10 wrote:
Tessa78 wrote:The address looks like "Vico Secondo Pozzo", number 28.

T.


Wow, thanks! The street still exists today! Around the corner is another street that a Sarricchio lives on today. Of course, the town is small, so probably all the streets are close!

A Sarricchio lives on the street Vicolo I Pozzo, (see below) do you think it's the same thing? What does Vicolo mean?


Sarricchio Vito
75011 Accettura (MT)
Vicolo I Pozzo, 26

I need to write to some of them, but I was hoping to have more info. before I did.

Thanks! -Annette


Vicolo I Pozzo probably is Vicolo Primo Pozzo

Vicolo/Vico is like an alley... narrow

T.

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Re: Sarricchio-Fittipaldi processetti from 1865

Postby Tessa78 » 06 Feb 2011, 15:40

I can't make out the word for the profession of Giuseppe in the first image, but if the title of Don for him is correct, then he would not have been an agricoltore or farmer.


Though "agricoltore" is defined as "farmer," there is a formal definition for "agricoltore" meaning "agriculturist" - a bit more than a farmer.... :-)

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Re: Sarricchio-Fittipaldi processetti from 1865

Postby maestra36 » 06 Feb 2011, 16:19

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I've zoomed in on the document a great deal and, although the word does start with the letters Ag, the rest of the word does not look like the occupation agricoltore to me. I just can't figure out what the occupation would be, but I still don't believe that that is correct.
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