Marriage Record- Civil marriage or church??

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Marriage Record- Civil marriage or church??

Postby Haztek » 07 Aug 2011, 16:56

This is the marriage record for my Grandparents Giuseppe Crispino and Angela Cillo- 29 March 1899. My question is, is this just recording the marriage at the civil office and they were married in a church, or were they married at the civil office? Is there any indication of a church marriage? Thanks, jerry

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Re: Marriage Record- Civil marriage or church??

Postby Tessa78 » 07 Aug 2011, 17:00

This is an official act of marriage.

There is no reference to a church marriage that I can see, only a reference at the bottom to the publication of the banns in Rotondi on the 5th and 12th of the current month of March.

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Postby Haztek » 07 Aug 2011, 17:07

Thanks T, although I am a little surprised they didn't get married in the church.
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Re: Marriage Record- Civil marriage or church??

Postby PippoM » 07 Aug 2011, 17:42

I think, but I'm not sure, that between 1870 and 1929, when the "Concordato" was signed between Italy and Vatican, people had to marry twice, one for State and one for Church. In fact, I found references to civil marriages with dates different from religious marriages.
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Re: Marriage Record- Civil marriage or church??

Postby Tessa78 » 07 Aug 2011, 19:29

Haztek wrote:Thanks T, although I am a little surprised they didn't get married in the church.
jerry



Hi Jerry, :D

Sorry if I wasn't clear... there is no mention in the document of a church wedding, but that doesn't mean they didn't get married in a church at some time.

I have many records in my family that do not indicate a church marriage on the actual civil document... in other comunes you might find a column on the right or left that speaks of the church marriage. :-)

As PippoM stated
, "between 1870 and 1929, when the "Concordato" was signed between Italy and Vatican, people had to marry twice, one for State and one for Church."

This thread may be of interest...
topic22754.html?hilit=civil%20vs.%20church%20marriage


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Re: Marriage Record- Civil marriage or church??

Postby Haztek » 07 Aug 2011, 19:34

Thanks T. I was hoping there was the name of a church in Cervinara since there are about 6 different churches there that they could have been married in. The bride was from Cervinara and the groom from Rotondi, the next little town over from Cervinara. Jerry
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Re: Marriage Record- Civil marriage or church??

Postby Tessa78 » 07 Aug 2011, 19:42

Just a thought... :-)

Why not write to one of the churches (I find ONE in the Italian Phone Book)
http://www.paginebianche.it/execute.cgi ... inara&ind=

and ask in which church the marriage might have take place for that year, and given the address of the bride... Can't hurt to inquire :-)

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Re: Marriage Record- Civil marriage or church??

Postby Haztek » 07 Aug 2011, 20:04

Well, I wrote to all of them trying to get Angela's Baptismal info and never heard from any of them. However, I was successful in writing to the church in Rotondi and getting Giuseppe's Baptismal info. Jerry

Here is the list of church's I found in Cervinara:


1)Our Lady of Valle
Contrada Pantanari
Cervinara 83012 IT

2)St. Adiutore Bishop
Piazza Sant'Adiutore
Cervinara 83012 IT

3)St. Januarius Bishop and Maryr
Via S. Gennaro
Cervinara 83012 IT

4)St. Marciano
Contrada S. Marciano
Cervinara 83012 IT

5)St. Nicholas Bishop
Via Ioffredo
Cervinara 83012 IT

6)St. Potito Martyr
Piazza S. Potito
Cervinara 83012 IT

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